2lick's Power Plant for 09 - Feedback appreciated! Carbs???

[2lick]

I have been shopping and thinking for a while. I have most stuff ordered or lined up. I still have a few ???? to fill in. Just wanted to post and see if any one wanted to steer me in any different way on a topic.

What do you guys think?:thumbsdown::biggthumpup:

Motor:
62t cases ported by ADA
5mm stroker crank
61x cylinder at 83mm on stock sleeves ported by ADA for lowend
83mm Wiescos round top
ADA girdled head kit
???? cc Domes and Compression (I need to get some made for 93octane)

Carbs:
Full Spectrum / Boyseen intake manifold with RAD valves
Not sure on carbs?????? maybe Mikuni SBN 46’s modded by xscream
???? Jetting
Novi carb linkage
Hot products billet wheel
Carb shaft clamps
Stock 44 carb air boxes clearanced to fit head

Exhaust:
Factory bpipe Mod chamber
All exhaust ceramic coated
Headpipe / manifold matched at 46mm
FC valve and 4mm restrictor at Stinger
???? Water screws
Xmetal water box with front and rear exit

Cooling:
Dual tapped pump
Quick disconnects at midshaft
1 line for exhaust
1 line for Cylinders
See diagram attached for routing and fittings

Electronics:
YTX20L Battery
Stock Ebox
MSD Enhancer
701 Coil with MSD Pug caps
Blade fuse
JSS Battery Disconnects on top
62t stator with bullet connectors outside of box
TBM 2 lb charging flywheel with square magnets
Brand new OEM bendix
Rebuilt OEM starter
New start stop switch

Pump:
UMI billet couplers
Worx 201 Intake grate
Stock D cut rideplate
OEM superjet pump
TMB pump stuffer with smallest cone
14/19 Skat Trak c-75
Thrust Innovations trim system
???? Exit nozzle bore

Others:
Extended rails, Rev Footholds, turf
Internal fuel filler
Monkey grip motor mounts
Kenny keepers
2 500 rule bilge pumps
Xmetal scupper
Xmetal handle pole and steering -9 total
Stainless battery box
Quick disconnects on all fuel lines and water lines
OEM and kart tank

 

[steveyz250fpilot]

I think that if you want a 5 mil stroker that rocks harder than Judas priest Live..... then you should call Brian at Thrust Innovations and have zero guesswork about a hard ass ripping motor setup. His number is:

1-954-683-1463

This man builds one seriously simple and sick 5 mil stroker.

X-metal with front and rear is pretty damn loud. If you are in the ocean, it's cool, but on a lake with others around, it's pretty annoying.

I've got a 12/17 C75 Skat with a TBM and the smallest cone..... that's the shiznit in my book!

I have been shopping and thinking for a while. I have most stuff ordered or lined up. I still have a few ???? to fill in. Just wanted to post and see if any one wanted to steer me in any different way on a topic.

What do you guys think?:thumbsdown::biggthumpup:

Motor:
62t cases ported by ADA
5mm stroker crank
61x cylinder at 83mm on stock sleeves ported by ADA for lowend
83mm Wiescos round top
ADA girdled head kit
???? cc Domes and Compression (I need to get some made for 93octane)

Carbs:
Full Spectrum / Boyseen intake manifold with RAD valves
Dual Mikuni SBN 46’s modded by xscream
???? Jetting
Novi carb linkage
Hot products billet wheel
Carb shaft clamps
Stock 44 carb air boxes clearanced to fit head

Exhaust:
Factory bpipe Mod chamber
All exhaust ceramic coated
Headpipe / manifold matched at 46mm
FC valve and 4mm restrictor at Stinger
???? Water screws
Xmetal water box with front and rear exit

Cooling:
Dual tapped pump
Quick disconnects at midshaft
1 line for exhaust
1 line for Cylinders
See diagram attached for routing and fittings

Electronics:
YTX20L Battery
Stock Ebox
MSD Enhancer
760 Coil with MSD Pug caps
Blade fuse
JSS Battery Disconnects on top
62t stator with bullet connectors outside of box
TBM 2 lb charging flywheel with square magnets
Brand new OEM bendix
Rebuilt OEM starter
New start stop switch

Pump:
UMI billet couplers
Worx 201 Intake grate
Stock D cut rideplate
OEM superjet pump
TMB pump stuffer with smallest cone
14/19 Skat Trak c-75
Thrust Innovations trim system
???? Exit nozzle bore

Others:
Extended rails, Rev Footholds, turf
Internal fuel filler
Monkey grip motor mounts
Kenny keepers
2 500 rule bilge pumps
Xmetal scupper
Xmetal handle pole and steering -9 total
Stainless battery box
Quick disconnects on all fuel lines and water lines
OEM and kart tank

 

[2lick]

I already have the short block.. picked it up used.... 80% off whats listed I already have....

Thanks for the recommendation tho, I hear Brian makes nice packages!

 

[D Slicker]

That is pretty much my drivetrain except for the ada porting and tbm flywheel. If you feel like taking a drive you can ride it next weekend.

 

[2lick]

That is pretty much my drivetrain except for the ada porting and tbm flywheel. If you feel like taking a drive you can ride it next weekend.

Your right! Its close... plus the 5mil crank to to....

If I could afford a second ski I would buy yours for sure!

 

[suva]

X-metal with front and rear is pretty damn loud. If you are in the ocean, it's cool, but on a lake with others around, it's pretty annoying.

I agree.

 

[2lick]

You know I never really looked at the whole carb market. I know I have a good intake and reed cage setup. What should I through on top of them? I was going to go with the xscream modded 46s because it was the cheapest route and I have some one who can help me jet....

Any carb recommendations for me setup?

I am also trying to look at the prices (one of my biggest deciding factors...)

Any one have some prices to share?
Correct me if any are wrong...

1400- Novi 48s
1160- 49 Fullspecs
1100- 48 Fullspecs
960- Riva 48 Powerbombs
880- 48 Blackjacks
740- 46 Blackjacks
700- Xscream Modded 46s
430- Mikuni 46s

 

[keefer]

Now I know why your sold that impeller! That 5 mil setup will need a bigger wheel. I bought a set of used full spec 48s last spring and then bought a new Boyesen mani and the RAD 131a triple reed blocks. This setup makes very clean and snappy power right off the bottom on my setup. I have ridden boats with the blackjack 46s and they run very clean also. I have heard good things about the Team Scream modded 46s but have never ridden a boat with them. I don't think you will go wrong with any of the setups you mentioned. $$$ Where do you want to spend the $$$ Decisions, Decisions

 

[vomitspot]

if you already have the 760 coil i wouldnt remove the oem plug caps
i have heard from a very rep that the wire is made into the cap somehow
and thats what makes it better than the 701 coil...

 

[2lick]

if you already have the 760 coil i wouldnt remove the oem plug caps
i have heard from a very rep that the wire is made into the cap somehow
and thats what makes it better than the 701 coil...

Oh good info! Thanks!

 

[2lick]

Now I know why your sold that impeller! That 5 mil setup will need a bigger wheel. I bought a set of used full spec 48s last spring and then bought a new Boyesen mani and the RAD 131a triple reed blocks. This setup makes very clean and snappy power right off the bottom on my setup. I have ridden boats with the blackjack 46s and they run very clean also. I have heard good things about the Team Scream modded 46s but have never ridden a boat with them. I don't think you will go wrong with any of the setups you mentioned. $$$ Where do you want to spend the $$$ Decisions, Decisions

Indeed! I also bought the pump the guy had with the motor.... Ill start there and see if i need to re pitch

 

[crammit442]

You know I never really looked at the whole carb market. I know I have a good intake and reed cage setup. What should I through on top of them? I was going to go with the xscream modded 46s because it was the cheapest route and I have some one who can help me jet....

Any carb recommendations for me setup?

I am also trying to look at the prices (one of my biggest deciding factors...)

Any one have some prices to share?
Correct me if any are wrong...

1400- Novi 48s
????- 48 or 49 Fullspecs
960- Riva 48 Powerbombs
880- 48 Blackjacks
740- 46 Blackjacks
700- Xscream Modded 46s
430- Mikuni 46s

I use BlackJacks on all my stuff, but for the money the plain old 46's are really good.

 

[steveyz250fpilot]

A single Novi 48 is what I am running on my 5 mil Lamey with 85.5 bore and it rips VERY HARD and pulls like a tank. Less clutter in the engine compartment and the ease of tuning one carb! PM 335 and Gilgoneround and ask them about it if you have doubts about a single setup. They have ridden it. I'm also running an enhancer and a stock flywheel. :Banane26:

 

[Bigfish]

Get the blackjacks it will be money well spent.

 

[2lick]

A single Novi 48 is what I am running on my 5 mil Lamey with 85.5 bore and it rips VERY HARD and pulls like a tank. Less clutter in the engine compartment and the ease of tuning one carb! PM 335 and Gilgoneround and ask them about it if you have doubts about a single setup. They have ridden it. I'm also running an enhancer and a stock flywheel. :Banane26:

I have an ATP mani....

Last summer I tried single 49 FS and dual 44s.... The 49 hit really good and used less gas.... But I feel the 44s held power longer, even tho they did ot hit as hard...

I was hoping a good set of duals would be the ticket.....

 

[Matt_E]

Less clutter in the engine compartment and the ease of tuning one carb!

How often do you tune carbs? :dunno:

 

[DAG]

if you are building the complete package,,, why not go with a proven setup? eliminating all guess work...

look into arts 4mm/blackjack package
or xscreams 828 package

 

[2lick]

if you are building the complete package,,, why not go with a proven setup? eliminating all guess work...

look into arts 4mm/blackjack package
or xscreams 828 package

Money Money Money.... I can't afford that stuff..... I snoop and get good deals on used stuff, thats the only way I'll ever be in this sport.

 

[steveyz250fpilot]

How often do you tune carbs? :dunno:

Once! And it took less than 5 minutes! :nana:

 

[Matt_E]

So why is tuning carbs a concern in single vs dual?

FWIW, I don't think you can go all that wrong either way.
I've run both. But the tuning argument doesn't hold much water.