3 Degrees in the right direction?

[jeepmark4x4]

This is an oooolllddd thread but I'm doing some last minute tune ups to my 61x...

I'm running a stock 61x that I just put together and wish to get alittle more UGH out of it for the Daytona ride. I heard to move the stator plate clockwise to advance the timing but I have been reading to move it CCW. Just want to clear some stuff up before i take the timing light to it.

I want bottom end! No high end runs

Im running:
stock 61x with 650 electronics that has the lower rev limiter
Caufman sizzler pipe.

 

[jeepmark4x4]

\Ive had a few nati's and I am willing to try something ccaarazzyyy, wow its late

 

[QJS]

CCW to advance the timing.
Chris.

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

Hey Jeep mark,

I want to know how this works out, as ive got a similat set up that hasnt been ran yet.

This is an oooolllddd thread but I'm doing some last minute tune ups to my 61x...

I'm running a stock 61x that I just put together and wish to get alittle more UGH out of it for the Daytona ride. I heard to move the stator plate clockwise to advance the timing but I have been reading to move it CCW. Just want to clear some stuff up before i take the timing light to it.

I want bottom end! No high end runs

Im running:
stock 61x with 650 electronics that has the lower rev limiter
Caufman sizzler pipe.

 

[Idok]

static advance is a great mod!!!!

 

[accbr]

This is an oooolllddd thread but I'm doing some last minute tune ups to my 61x...

I'm running a stock 61x that I just put together and wish to get alittle more UGH out of it for the Daytona ride. I heard to move the stator plate clockwise to advance the timing but I have been reading to move it CCW. Just want to clear some stuff up before i take the timing light to it.

I want bottom end! No high end runs

Im running:
stock 61x with 650 electronics that has the lower rev limiter
Caufman sizzler pipe.

I have the same setup except I ported the cylinder. I advanced the timing 3 degrees. I've put a few tanks through it without any problems. I don't make many long WOT runs on it though. Never tried it without the advance. I set it that way when I built the motor.

edit - took the top end off this past week, and it looks fine.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

know its an old thread, but whats the final verdict on timing advance? i may do this on my 701 build.

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

its been advanced, with MSD enhancer even, and FINE on my 650 powered boat for a long time now.

sorry no report on a 701 engined ride.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

ok so counter clock wise 3 degrees.... what did you use to measure the degree marks? ive got one of the degree wheels for the seapoos wonder if i could use that. oh yea, and what exactly does it mean by advance timing, does that mean spark earlier?

 

[Crab]

http://www.tavia.com/free_degree_wheel.html

print this put carboard on the back and your done

An old CD works well also.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

cool, but still courious as to what advanced timing means... i was under the impression that it is fireing of the cylinder earlier than stock settings... how does this relate to performance.. better acceleration, more power.. how noticeable is it.

 

[SJet]

So, is the pic at the start of this thread showing advanced timing?

 

[chrisdoc0608]

yes, the mark on the stator is stock settings, it is turned counter clockwise to advance.

 

[Roo]

how does this relate to performance.. better acceleration, more power.. how noticeable is it.

2nd.

my flywheel cover is coming off tomorrow :sneaky:

 

[chrisdoc0608]

haha im gonna do it as soon as i get my flywheel sent off to lpw... im hoping for some very nice noticable power after these two things and a bored nozzle.

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

you will for sure notice all 3 of those things combined.

careful though, you can no longer clamp the throttle and run WTFO if you any compression, RPMS, or lean-ness.. issues.

haha im gonna do it as soon as i get my flywheel sent off to lpw... im hoping for some very nice noticable power after these two things and a bored nozzle.

 

[Roo]

for what its worth...

all i can say is wow!!! i jumped into this today... took the flywheel off and i actually had the stator retarding the timing! brought it back to the dash mark, then +3 degrees and damn, there was the extra little umph i needed!

i am on a small in land lake and only do freestyle - never any WOT runs.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

so it was very noticeable?

 

[chrisdoc0608]

so is there anything i can do to find out how long i can punch the throttle like if i want to chase down a boat or something like that... also what do you guys do about riding to your riding spot? just keep it at like 3/4 throttle or something?

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

have you ever ridden a stand up?

I hardly ever cruise at more than 40% or so throttle, always blipping it, slowly up to a wave, turn, carve, wave, a few seconds of WOT limit is NOT an issue at all to me?