3 Degrees in the right direction?

[chrisdoc0608]

lmao... YES i have ridden a stand up.... i dont think i would be trying to modify something if i had never rode it... but anyway, when i cruise i guess i keep it around 50% throttle, and when i go to jump i blip the throttle then punch it as i get into the wave... just wanted to know if there was anyway of telling how long you can run at wot.

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

there is a tried and tru fool proof method.

fill the tank with 87 octane fuel.

hold it wideopen until it gradually slows down and dies.

refill tank with 91-93 octane, hold it wide open for less time.

:beerchug:

lmao... YES i have ridden a stand up.... i dont think i would be trying to modify something if i had never rode it... but anyway, when i cruise i guess i keep it around 50% throttle, and when i go to jump i blip the throttle then punch it as i get into the wave... just wanted to know if there was anyway of telling how long you can run at wot.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

that doesnt sound too safe.... using advanced timing with lower octane... doesnt that = deto?

 

[DR3]

have you ever ridden a stand up?

I hardly ever cruise at more than 40% or so throttle, always blipping it, slowly up to a wave, turn, carve, wave, a few seconds of WOT limit is NOT an issue at all to me?

i run WOT when we go down to the bars on the water in clearwater to pick up the ladies:naughty::beerchug:

 

[keefer]

there is a tried and tru fool proof method.

fill the tank with 87 octane fuel.

hold it wideopen until it gradually slows down and dies.

refill tank with 91-93 octane, hold it wide open for less time.

:beerchug:

:haha::haha::haha:Bwahhahhaahhaa:smashfreakB:

 

[Speedfreak]

there is a tried and tru fool proof method.
fill the tank with 87 octane fuel.
hold it wideopen until it gradually slows down and dies.
refill tank with 91-93 octane, hold it wide open for less time.
:beerchug:

He forgot to add somewhere between it slowing down and dieing and filling with 93 octane that you will be placing a piston order.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

yea thats what i thought.... smartass ahahaha

 

[Boris]

I would like to try this but I do run WOT and need to keep this motor running until Chucky finishes my 701.
Since we have no surf I like to pin the gas and hold on as long as I can. It's a cheap thrill kind of like the one kids get from spinning around and around and around till they get a head spin.

So anyway, with 175 psi in my 650. Would I be pushing my luck ?

 

[chrisdoc0608]

thats what im running right now as well.... if anything im gonna do it when i get my flywheel lightened by paul and just be cautious i guess. do you have to readjust the carb after doing this?

 

[Speedfreak]

No carb adjustment needed just keep an eye on the plugs and piston tops and you can tell what is going on inside your motor. If you see any kinds of deto then consider your self lucky that you caught it early enough that you didn't have to order pistons. I would be careful at first and look but I would say that it would be just fine to hold it WOT all day on 175 PSI. I would do it on my ski but don't trust my word for it.

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

hmmm

im running a 650 too right now.

180 compression, msd enhancer, static advance ( eyeballed ), 12/15 impeller, msd rev limit is the max ( and it goes there)

I even ran some 87 octane gas this weekend, no damage...
just FEW WOT spurts.

my opinion is if you can hold the throttle wideopen for long, you either have TOO glass-like water, or you need more power.

:Banane35:

I would like to try this but I do run WOT and need to keep this motor running until Chucky finishes my 701.
Since we have no surf I like to pin the gas and hold on as long as I can. It's a cheap thrill kind of like the one kids get from spinning around and around and around till they get a head spin.

So anyway, with 175 psi in my 650. Would I be pushing my luck ?

 

[Boris]

my opinion is if you can hold the throttle wideopen for long, you either have TOO glass-like water, or you need more power.

:Banane35:

In my opinion I lack power.
I can keep up with slower couches in the gulf (bad habit leftover from my "go fast in a straight line" days), those pu$$ies back out in chop as soon as their a$$es bounce on the seat.

I guess I should man up and give this a try. If I blow up I'll just have to bug Chucky to finish my 701.

So, 3 degrees is best ?

 

[chrisdoc0608]

why does having a b pipe make a diff? does that mean that its not as good of an idea with my coffman?

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

THis is absolutely true.

its also why I attempted to make a joke of the "method" used to find how long you can hold it WOT

you wont know, you simply have been warned, that advanced timing, big RPMS, fuel octane and compression, can make an engine MORE likely to blow up than stock configurations.

ive held it wide open a few times, well, many times chasing down boats or just trying to have some fun. it's no big deal if you have a bpipe imho. my compression is around 180-185 and i have a 3 degree static advance with an msd enhancer. it's no sledge hammer, but it's a fun motor for sure. also, i'm running yamaslut's old 82mm team scream cylinder.

i think people get hung up/dwell on too many details/myths on the internet sometimes.

i mean, seriously, there are probably 1,000,000 different ways/reasons to blow a motor...

 

[chrisdoc0608]

well thanks for the help guys, im gonna give it a try as soon as my flywheel gets lightened... i am expecting to see some very noticable difference after doing both.

 

[Idok]

ive held it wide open a few times, well, many times chasing down boats or just trying to have some fun. it's no big deal if you have a bpipe imho. my compression is around 180-185 and i have a 3 degree static advance with an msd enhancer. it's no sledge hammer, but it's a fun motor for sure. also, i'm running yamaslut's old 82mm team scream cylinder.

i think people get hung up/dwell on too many details/myths on the internet sometimes.

i mean, seriously, there are probably 1,000,000 different ways/reasons to blow a motor...

x2!

i set all mine up with the same....3mm CCW..stock or msd enhancer, you choose

:usa2:

 

[Roo]

when my stator was rebuilt by Jetski Solutions, they included a set of these babies:

there site lists they are cut to adjust -/+4 Degrees of timing.

mine looks like they are cut for more adjustment... wondering what other peoples experience is.