66e...Who's running them?

[AlbanyMotorsports]

Im curious who has been running the 66e platform..I built a 927 in the spring and ive been very pleased with it. For me it was a cheaper alternative to having a reliable motor that has a lot of power (in my mind).

If you are running one how do you have it setup?

I am running 87mm pistons, 48mm Powerbombs, WDK wet pipe, Stock Ignition. Ive been told that there is a programable ignition out that is better than the MSD TL setup. Does anyone have any input? Has anybody run the dry pipe on a 66e yet other than WDK?

 

[restosud]

lucky you.you got all the parts you needed to get it running.
i'm still waiting for the pipe and mount kit after 1 year.
advent has a programmable cdi but it's $700.
did you seal the power valve shaft holes or are you using the servo valves?

 

[Idok]

I will have one up and running the next few weeks.....

resleeved and bored .25 over
riva head and gas valves


no pipe yet....I dont want to run the wet, Ill hold out for the dry

 

[vomitspot]

im a 66e er
currently with 84mm 1300r npv cylinders
just got my 87mm cylinders yesterday
wdk wet pipe,running somm 44mm red tops right now have been useing 48 novis but been fighting a low end bog so i switched to red tops
bog ended up being the riva quick rev
i have a tl set up but havent installed yet
pump is 140 mag 12 v w 16-21 prop

now that the bog is gone im very happy with the ski but always want more!
i cant keep the pump in the water
and when i can i cant belive how hard it pulls
i have all this in a stock hull
jason

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

I am running the 800 cylinders and using Riva gas valves...I hear welding the blades in place is just as good as anything. I have a 145 Mag pump and it hooks up like a mother.

I struggled for a while with getting the bottom end cleaned up and had to go way down on the high speed jetting to clean it up. It still struggles a bit from a stand still. It doesnt bog or load up it just feels like it lacks a bit of the 62t snap. I know the crank and flywheel combine for a ton of rotating mass thats hard to wind up quickly. I have come to the conclusion that the bottom end load up is due to the pipe and I hope the dry pipe takes care of it. You can def tell when you get on the pipe but it needs a good amount of RPM.

Overall it I think it tears..I am running a standard weight envy hull and while it may be lighter than a stock SJ its still a heavy ski. Im getting to about 5 oclock on a my flat water bflip attempts which really surprised me (im 6'2 230lbs). I have landed flips off of a single 26 ft center console boat which made my year for me.

Im done flapping my jaw...I really love this motor setup and most importantly it starts everytime I go to ride which is priceless to me.

 

[Idok]

what motor is in your REV???

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

what motor is in your REV???

I had a jetworks 4mil in it that recent came apart and right now I have a stock 701 until I either a)rebuild my blown motor or b) find another 66e

 

[Idok]

is the 4mm the same as you had in there last year at daytona???

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

im a 66e er
currently with 84mm 1300r npv cylinders
just got my 87mm cylinders yesterday
wdk wet pipe,running somm 44mm red tops right now have been useing 48 novis but been fighting a low end bog so i switched to red tops
bog ended up being the riva quick rev
i have a tl set up but havent installed yet
pump is 140 mag 12 v w 16-21 prop

now that the bog is gone im very happy with the ski but always want more!
i cant keep the pump in the water
and when i can i cant belive how hard it pulls
i have all this in a stock hull
jason

Curious how the TL will work. keep me posted..... I thought the same thing when I first rode my motor.

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

is the 4mm the same as you had in there last year at daytona???

Yeah..did I let you ride it? it was a pretty good motor..I let a few people ride it at daytona. I had a needle bearing come apart and it destroyed the poor thing. Absolutely junked it. The bearing was about 8 rides old. Depressing to write about...hahaha

 

[Idok]

Yeah..did I let you ride it? it was a pretty good motor..I let a few people ride it at daytona. I had a needle bearing come apart and it destroyed the poor thing. Absolutely junked it. The bearing was about 8 rides old. Depressing to write about...hahaha

no, daytona last year was the first day my REV went into the water so I was occupied :bananapowerslide:

that does suck about the needle bearing...Does the 927 feel considerably stronger than the 4mm?

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

no, daytona last year was the first day my REV went into the water so I was occupied :bananapowerslide:

that does suck about the needle bearing...Does the 927 feel considerably stronger than the 4mm?

I can honestly say that there is no comparison whatsoever. The 4mil was snappy and that was it...The 927 is a different league without question.

Its hard to explain the difference...I would compare it to a car ...any car with over X amount of horsepower can spin the tires in first gear...the 66e is almost like taking off in 2nd gear compared to 1st gear with the 4mil. The difference is when you start to build RPM the 4mil falls off right away (runs out of gear) while the 66e keeps honking and pulling....

you are more than welcome to ride my 66e envy in daytona this year :drive:

 

[superramjet]

when my total loss failed, i put stock ignition on to ride, it was horrible, you wont believe the difference between total loss and stock ignition on the 66e motor. I have the advent programmable but have not used it yet because my custom domes broke

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

when my total loss failed, i put stock ignition on to ride, it was horrible, you wont believe the difference between total loss and stock ignition on the 66e motor. I have the advent programmable but have not used it yet because my custom domes broke

Thats really good to hear because you can tell something holds it back on the bottom end...Is the advent supposed to be a better setup??

I figured I would buy TL for it but havent heard much feedback about the difference...

I know you have done a lot with this platform so I value your input. Thanks

 

[superramjet]

the stock timing is supposed to be around 13 degrees because it was designed to be in a runabout that runs wfo all day. You'll set your tl up around 28 degrees and it wakes the bottom end up noticably, the lighter flywheel helps too.

don't know it the advent is better yet, but its more precise and fully programmable up and down the curve, and no dead batterys, my tl would only run a couple of tanks of fuel and thats not long. in salt water, it never ran

currently i'm not running a 66e, and i don't plan on untill a dry pipe is available. The lack of waterbox is a problem too as i've hydrolocked my motor 3 times because water went straight up the exhaust into my motor

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

currently i'm not running a 66e, and i don't plan on untill a dry pipe is available. The lack of waterbox is a problem too as i've hydrolocked my motor 3 times because water went straight up the exhaust into my motor

Yeah thats been a major concern of mine...the second you pull your trailer out of the water everything in the pipe goes right into the manifold...I do run my motor on the angle so I havent had it hydro-lock yet. That sucks that you had that problem.

Did you notice how loaded up the pipe keeps it on long idles?? Once it clears out its fine but whenever I idle out of the harbor Im always amazed it stays running. Once its hot and been cleared out its fine.

I think you have turned me off of the TL on onto the advent. I need reliability.

I will also say these motors do a lot of shaking at low rpms.

 

[superramjet]

my motor was at an angle too. the advent should be reliable it fits the oem electric box. uses reliable stock stuff

 

[vomitspot]

ive hydro-ed my motor 3 times as well
mine have just been from stopping in the water to let a bud ride
ive been harrasing bogart about making me a exhaust scupper but i think its like beating a dead horse
ive heard that tl is about equal to a pipe? if so im gonna be really happy!

on the 87mm pistons do you need to do anything to the cases or will they clear everything?

jeff told me that on 87mm bore you dont need the pvs
what are you guys doing?
jason

 

[WaveDemon]

I was running a stock 66e w/ PV's, stock carbs and a b pipe it was a better motor than my built 86mm 61x with lots of mods. I need to make an aluminum exhaust manifold for it before I put it back on the water.

I had a water box so no hydrolocking for me.

 

[Lakeman]

I have 3 66E motors. 2 installed and one in process.
Stock 80mm bore
84mm bore
87mm bore (927)

The 927 motor is running TL with Jeff’s head and 49 full spec carbs and Jeff’s steel pipe. I am also waiting on his new dry pipe. Gas power vales.

I switched out the stock bore with the new rebuilt 84mm bore motor this summer. It is running stock electrical with 48 Novi carbs and an R&D head. Using Jeff steel pipe. Gas power valves

I am rebuilding the stock bore motor this winter. Will probably go 87 mm or bigger. Waiting to hear what Superramjet thinks about the Advent ignition system. Once I get the new dry pipe this motor will use the left over steel pipe. Gas power valves.

You might ask why three. One for me, one for my son, then why not three? No really just have enough parts and extra hull to put it in.

Yes, I looked around at my options when the crank in my 5 mil stocker went bad. I am patient and can find good deals on used GP800 parts. It seems to be reliable also. Lots of power. For example I just bought a back up crank off eBay. 170274415615. I think it was a good deal.