Freestyle Affordable Power......... It's COMING

Devin, what is your goal here? You seem to be digging pretty hard here, but what are u trying to accomplish? If u are going to point out mistakes feel free to include ALL engine companies.

Let me clear up for everyone what happened to the 1 isolated cylinder. 1 and only 1 cyl went out with .010 clearance and it was caught before it was assembled. And by the way the same cyl that is run in the ATV world is run at .011 clearance. In order for the customer to have a running motor at Daytona, erik said assemble it and run it. Shortly after the customer returned home a NEW cylinder set to the proper clearance and NEW pistons were shipped. And it is my understanding that the customer ran the 1st cyl in daytona and it had plenty of power, yes there was some extra piston wear, but that was to be expected. So the customer now has a properly setup running motor and is happy.

If anyone has any questions, please feel to contact us directly, we'd be happy to clear up any confusion. And dont let 1 college kid affect your decisions or opinions.

So far all of our customers have been pleased and there have a few people that have ended de- tuning their setups due to too much power.
 
Why isn't your mentor Tony on here posting pics? It was his motor, right? Yet you are charging the hill giving half the info from the true story trying to "raise awareness" for water migration patterns that your infinite wisdom believe aren't right... doesn't make sense....

I'm interested to see where you go in this sport, especially with everything you have written on these forums...
 

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@js/sj what engine builder/business are you associated with or employed by? Your actions and general immaturity on this forum have become far more than an annoyance to a lot of the reputable builders/businesses that you have trashed here. I don't think you have any idea of the adverse effects that your behavior on this forum poses to any business associated with you. This is a very small community and you have managed to piss off a lot of people here. You have next to nothing, if anything at all to base all of your negative opinions about different products on, yet you act as if you are the expert of all things jetski. How would you like it if everyone here decided to boycott Tony's business on account of nothing more than their annoyance with you?
If you don't like Erik's motors don't buy one, it's really as simple as that.
 
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Chad, refer to post 1300..and yes, as I said All seem to have some issues dasa/scream too... Since the beginning, your "camp" has mocked me bout "migration", that's fine :-D, didn't cost me a dime..but has cost others.

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In reference to the question in post 1300, i personally break down my motors every winter to inspect for wear and tear and freshen up the motor. In CT we have long boring winters so it passes the time. I just tore down my tpe 964 last month due to boredom and everything looked fine, i have about 30 hrs on mine. These are nikasil plated cyls so they will last longer that steal sleeved motors. The nikasil also reduces friction so your pistons will last longer. The things to keep an eye is your crank and bearings. And in my opinion it is better to replace early than grenade a motor.

You have mention this water migration issue. None of the motors out there have had any cooling problems whatsoever. In fact they run cooler than most other motors. And with the tuning specs that we and phil have come up with the burn patterns are spot on.

No one at TPE is out to get you but you seem to be out to get us for some reason. And erik has a text message from you asking you for a "good deal" on a cylinder. We are here to make power and grow the sport, you should give it a shot.
 

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...does anyone really know the life of any high performance motor? I don't think there is a good ANSWER...

There are surely variables that can play a part in shortening life expectancy, such as detonation, lack of lubrication and the all important maintenance/replacement/periodic inspection of moving parts, sealing surfaces. Lack of the aforementioned and poor tuning seem to play a big part in premature catastrophic engine failures. I doubt the TPE is anymore or less susceptible than other engines on the market...

Well said. There are so many variables with a high performance freestyle motor many of which you mention but also how motor is used is huge, how much water ingestion, how is motor dried out and stored especially with saltwater use, etc, etc. In my experience, the most important variable is the owner and his care for his motor and tuning. Only time will tell how long they last as more people use them over the next few years.

Are you holding TPE to higher standard than other engine makers? How long does an XScream, DASA, PHP motor last? No manufacturer I know of quotes how long their engine will last. All they can do is suggest a time frame (which is necessarily a bit of a guess) for teardown and inspection.
 
Since the beginning, your "camp" has mocked me bout "migration", that's fine :-D, didn't cost me a dime..but has cost others.

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I think this sums up the whole point of every post you have put out related to TPE.

I am glad you were able to put that in writing for everyone.

You are retaliating with questionable information because people made fun of you, and your hope is to damage sales for TPE. What a guy!
 
Chad. This question is not a "bash" on tpe.. What is the p/c clearance on your motor and the temp you rec. on cyl?, is it different for hi compression/or 10mm... This shouldn't b a secret the world can't know..
 
Zimmy, I'm not trying to damage any tpe sales... Not my intent.. Your responses and others at time don't help tpe either... While back I post a picture of a piston.. Then ask you to give reason for wear... Shortly after Chris reveals "only problem"?? Eric told me were 4 problem cylinders, then Chad says only 1.... Why different story's?

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Going out on a limb here. Has js/sj overall input been positive, or even supported by multiple members? Or even been positively constructive? It seems he's the only one reading from his page? Anybody else on that page? Nope!

There's an obvious negative pattern going on with him and unfortunately, it doesn't stop. His choice of comment wording (unfortunately) always offends.

I don't think it's only about this site, but is also about the impressions his comments have on potential riders and fellow members of the lifestyle we love and support.

Not to mention really going against builders and tuners that have proven real world experience and are highly respected in the 2-stroke tuning community in general.

IMO we do not need his drama here and he should be banned permentely.

I'm looking forward to getting this and other threads (he's derailed negatively) back on the trend of us all having good times riding and enjoying new products and overall progressing our sport / hobby.



Sorry for the negative comments here, as most know I am all about the good times and positivity of jet ski in general.

Rant over. Please delete if I have crossed the line. Ban me if needed, I just had to be the cannon fodder on this one.
js/sj Feel free to pm me with any comments, as I won't derail this thread any further.


TPE FTW!!! Nothing but good things and good times coming from their camp. Stand up bunch of guys IMO. Thanks again for everything you have done for us.
 

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Going out on a limb here. Has js/sj overall input been positive, or even supported by multiple members? Or even been positively constructive? It seems he's the only one reading from his page? Anybody else on that page? Nope!

There's an obvious negative pattern going on with him and unfortunately, it doesn't stop. His choice of comment wording (unfortunately) always offends.

I don't think it's only about this site, but is also about the impressions his comments have on potential riders and fellow members of the lifestyle we love and support.

Not to mention really going against builders and tuners that have proven real world experience and are highly respected in the 2-stroke tuning community in general.

IMO we do not need his drama here and he should be banned permentely.

I'm looking forward to getting this and other threads (he's derailed negatively) back on the trend of us all having good times riding and enjoying new products and overall progressing our sport / hobby.



Sorry for the negative comments here, as most know I am all about the good times and positivity of jet ski in general.

Rant over. Please delete if I have crossed the line. Ban me if needed, I just had to be the cannon fodder on this one.
js/sj Feel free to pm me with any comments, as I won't derail this thread any further.


TPE FTW!!! Nothing but good things and good times coming from their camp. Stand up bunch of guys IMO. Thanks again for everything you have done for us.

I'm completely with you, he is doing nothing positive for this community, I see nothing but negative rants all over any engine related posts. He seems to be pursuing an agenda of proving he is right over everyone else. Please just stop. Nobody cares and your just bringing people down. Your not solving anything or improving anything just stop and keep it to yourself.


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So obviously one guy isn't going to buy one of the TPE motors. It sounds like most of the feedback has been pretty good, for the most part. Once the season gets going it will be nice to get some ride reports and to hear the good and bad. Overall from the reviews I've read, it sounds like a great motor for the price!!

In my opinion, I personally hate the arguing part of the forums. It would be nice to hear some positive stuff on this site once in a while. It's probably just been a long winter for everyone. I hope TPE keeps their head up and keeps up the good work. It sounds like they have most of the bugs worked out. I do realize everyone is entitled to their opinion on a product and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
Just ignor dip$hit. All he wants is the attention. No one on here gives two $ hits what his opinion is or anything he has to say, positive or negative. He's just your typical know it all dillweed kid who thinks he knows everything. Getting caught up in his bull$hit only accomplishes what he wants.

Ignor him, and he won't have any reason to come on here anymore. His name is mud in the sport, so why buy into his crap?

SM

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I agree with what has been said earlier, if the vast majority want a member gone, is it really any loss to ban him? lol
 
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