Alternatives to foam

meatball

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Maryland
Closed cell foam doesn't absorb water (so they say). I'm thinking that the foam doesn't take on water as quickly as everyone makes it out to be. What do people think?

Doug

The main problem is when an entry point is observed water repeatedly entering that hole throughout the season can delaminate the foam from the hull and the gap created can hold water. The closed cell nature holds it there, so if you have multiple entry points, you have multiple pockets of water, plus the foam will absorb it a little (in a severe case).

I redid a boat bottom a while ago, tried to let it drain propped up for a YEAR, and it never got dry. Eventually just cut the bottom off, and found pockets of water at all water entry points. That situation is a bit more exaggerated in severity however, but wherever a little water got in, the cyclic action of pounding waves (flatbottom boat) made the water 'cut' through and delaminate the foam creating air pockets that filled with air across the hull at any leaky point (the hull had three metal strips that were riveted on for protection against hitting debris in the water... big PITA)

It is what it is, but at this point, I'm done talking about it. The way I see it, I'll use 2 lb foam and gain 5 lbs, or gain 1 lb in reinforcements and not use foam at all, and put on drain plugs with a well sealed tray area (like FL-crackers).

At reference to a previous comment about ping pong balls weight causing a difference in buoyancy needed, 10 lbs difference out of 280 lbs isnt going to cause much buoyancy difference, and the 51% packing efficiency meaning HALF the guarenteed buoyancy isnt enough for that offset 10 lbs. Pingpong/foam? It would work, whats it worth to you?
 

onesojourner

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Location
springfield, mo
alright fine. 2/3 layers of ping pong balls on the bottom with some reinforcements and foam up top. thats the answer. we have a new trend. add it to the tech faq this one is done.
 

IceRocket1286

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Location
Metro Detroit
well, I guess i might have to try some of these new ideas.... its a very sad day.

The rear rivet on my HIN plate was oddly wet, I havent rode it in 3 weeks. I blew it off, water squirts out. OVER AND OVER. Sooo I blow air into it with the air hose and my tray pops up, as well as a nice gurgling sound like its all wet. its not real heavy so I may have caught it in time. It is possible that it is just a weak tray as well, which is common. and Hopefully just the air im forcing in is making the gurgle
 
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gj_fx1

X-H2
The danger with trying to do with no flotation comes if you take some damage that puts a hole in it. Really if you are talking about a competition-only ski maybe thats not a concern.

In any case it doesn't need to be absolutely sealed. Just make sure whatever water gets in will be pick up by your bilge pump.
 
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