Backi Chan w/Dasa 1000 + the works completely submerged and rescued

iangdesign

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United States
Nobody was sitting on the beach when this went down. We were up river. The guys didn't realize I had no foam and thought we had it. Things happen fast and they responded right when they needed too, or Davy Jones would have a badass ski right now. I'm so thankful for my riding crew, best group of guys period. I shouldn't have rode it without a lanyard. Gonna get some pool noodles in it. I can't thank Droidboy and the rest of the crew enough. I was gonna drown before I let go of it.

Well it's probably good you rode with out a lanyard...it looked like the ski was heading straight to shore. A few extra seconds in the middle of the river could have made the difference in you still having a ski or Davy Jones sending you a "thank you for your donation" card!
 
Where I ride the sac it's max 20ft. How many posting have actually sunk a ski? You guys trust 4 little bolts that lose together to pull your ski plus all the drag from the water? Crazy. I've split a normal Superjet bow eye just towing one back. The pole bracket is probably the strongest place to pull from on a ski. The load is spread out the most and it's in a pale designed to see force. Not hatin on your idea just offering a different viewpoint. Maybe those places are just fine to pull from. I myself am not putting 300+ lbs of force on one of my pump inserts. Good Luck all
 
Where I ride the sac it's max 20ft. How many posting have actually sunk a ski? You guys trust 4 little bolts that lose together to pull your ski plus all the drag from the water? Crazy. I've split a normal Superjet bow eye just towing one back. The pole bracket is probably the strongest place to pull from on a ski. The load is spread out the most and it's in a pale designed to see force. Not hatin on your idea just offering a different viewpoint. Maybe those places are just fine to pull from. I myself am not putting 300+ lbs of force on one of my pump inserts. Good Luck all
Those 4 bolts in carbon fiber do the job, I've towed many times against very strong inlet tide pulling various skis and two heavy RN's with heavy riders. It's very solid and the use of lock nuts makes it secured.
where did you find that? I was thinking about doing the same, or adding a rear bow eye on my aquabot
Homemade from SS and welded together.
 

wakecanada

I love jetski
Location
whitby ontario
god dammit never ever ride without proper ropes and some type of retriever attached to your ski. Did everyone already forget I lost a full aftermarket ski a few months ago... glad you got it back though
 
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Those 4 bolts in carbon fiber do the job, I've towed many times against very strong inlet tide pulling various skis and two heavy RN's with heavy riders. It's very solid and the use of lock nuts makes it secured.

Homemade from SS and welded together.

These skis you towed back were full of water? That's the water drag I'm talking about. Every time I've towed a sunk ski on it was like it weighed 5x as much. But hey, if it works, it works
 

NVJAY775

My home away from home.
I'm not getting a pic, but my front tow loop has a 3"x4" AL backing plate with cabosil behind it to spread the load. I've done this on 3 skis and never had an issue. My pump bolt is temporary, but it will also spread the pressure load over much more than that one insert. And for the most part most people I have towed, or been towed from are gentle towers. No issues on any towing breakages so far, knock on wood. When I re turf and pad this winter, I'm hoping I can get a solid tow loop in the hull, but if not, I'm not worried at all about the pump bolt set up getting the job done. It's already been used with no issues in rough water.
 
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Delaware
I've split a normal Superjet bow eye just towing one back. The pole bracket is probably the strongest place to pull from on a ski.

You aren't towing correctly if you are ripping out a bow eye or the lip was already compromised from a previous darting. There's no need to use the pole bracket. I wouldn't use this unless last resort and would definitely tell others not to, especially with a stock bracket.


On another note I'm glad you still have your ski Josh. Recovery efforts could have been better but poop happens fast and at least you had a good ending. But man, hearing you state that it could have been a $27k(?) loss I can't fathom why you wouldn't spend another $30 - $50 on a tow rope and some kind of floatation. :(

Unfortunate thing is this won't be a lesson to someone else down the line as they think it won't happen to them and they'll lose their ski. Especially when there's a X welfare program to send these folks freebies. :confused:
 
Wow!! so glad you got that ski back.
god dammit never ever ride without proper ropes and some type of retriever attached to your ski. Did everyone already forget I lost a full aftermarket ski a few months ago... glad you got it back though
What kind of retrieval system do people use? I always wondered about that. There should be a way to at least hit something quick and have something inflate via CO2 or something with a long lanyard attached so if your ski does go to the bottom there is something attached to it with something floating on the surface so you can figure out a way to retrieve.
Insurance is another good question. Can you insure these things for their actual value? I mean most aftermarket hulls have titles to like a 1990 superjet. An insurance company I'd assume won't let you insure a "1990 superjet" for 20, 000.
 
You aren't towing correctly if you are ripping out a bow eye or the lip was already compromised from a previous darting. There's no need to use the pole bracket. I wouldn't use this unless last resort and would definitely tell others not to, especially with a stock bracket.


On another note I'm glad you still have your ski Josh. Recovery efforts could have been better but poop happens fast and at least you had a good ending. But man, hearing you state that it could have been a $27k(?) loss I can't fathom why you wouldn't spend another $30 - $50 on a tow rope and some kind of floatation. :(

Unfortunate thing is this won't be a lesson to someone else down the line as they think it won't happen to them and they'll lose their ski. Especially when there's a X welfare program to send these folks freebies. :confused:

I don't know what you mean by a stok bracket on a backie chan? They also don't have anywhere to tie unless you it a hole. The bow eye on a Superjet is not designed to pull a ski plus 50 gallons of water. It works for a bit in emergencies tho. Again the pole Bracket is te strongest part of a ski. Fact. It does not have to be the only spot to pull from on a ski tho. Just the strongest.
 
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Vegas
I don't know what you mean by a stok bracket on a backie chan? They also don't have anywhere to tie unless you it a hole. The bow eye on a Superjet is not designed to pull a ski plus 50 gallons of water. It works for a bit in emergencies tho. Again the pole Bracket is te strongest part of a ski. Fact. It does not have to be the only spot to pull from on a ski tho. Just the strongest.
If you pull from the pole bracket area the ski will sink instantly, I experienced this last month on a friends ski
 
Don't know about facts since I don't manufacturer Sj hulls or any other hulls. But I'm pretty sure that pole mount area was/is where a lot of Chan owners were having strength issues. Something to think about if ya have to tow your Chan, hope ya don't have too. Have fun.
 

Quinc

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California
Wow!! so glad you got that ski back.

What kind of retrieval system do people use? I always wondered about that. There should be a way to at least hit something quick and have something inflate via CO2 or something with a long lanyard attached so if your ski does go to the bottom there is something attached to it with something floating on the surface so you can figure out a way to retrieve.
Insurance is another good question. Can you insure these things for their actual value? I mean most aftermarket hulls have titles to like a 1990 superjet. An insurance company I'd assume won't let you insure a "1990 superjet" for 20, 000.

http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/updated-the-retriever.126544/
 

AtomicPunk

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Largo, Fl
Don't know about facts since I don't manufacturer Sj hulls or any other hulls. But I'm pretty sure that pole mount area was/is where a lot of Chan owners were having strength issues. Something to think about if ya have to tow your Chan, hope ya don't have too. Have fun.

FACTS! Who needs facts? this is the internet!
 
Yeah. Mine is reinforced. The whole ski is. The pole bracket is definitely a place of concern on the older chans. It's still plenty strong to pull from without reinforcement tho. It's all about load displacement.

A ski FULL OF WATER tows 100 percent different than a ski that's floating and has a rider on it. Not even comparable. That's why I asked of anyone has sank an recovered a ski towing it. Because if not and your posting your basically talking out your ass. Ie done it a few times and that's why I gave my input. Take it or leave it.
 
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Lodi
You aren't towing correctly if you are ripping out a bow eye or the lip was already compromised from a previous darting. There's no need to use the pole bracket. I wouldn't use this unless last resort and would definitely tell others not to, especially with a stock bracket.


On another note I'm glad you still have your ski Josh. Recovery efforts could have been better but poop happens fast and at least you had a good ending. But man, hearing you state that it could have been a $27k(?) loss I can't fathom why you wouldn't spend another $30 - $50 on a tow rope and some kind of floatation. :(

Unfortunate thing is this won't be a lesson to someone else down the line as they think it won't happen to them and they'll lose their ski. Especially when there's a X welfare program to send these folks freebies. :confused:
Not everyone rec rides. My boat doesn't have flotation for a reason not because I can't afford it lol. My ski is setup so that any water immediately goes into the tray area. This avoids water ingestion and it's lite. My ski is a purpose built flat water beast.
 
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