There is a difference, Steve calls them blemish hulls because they do have blemishes and the customer knows , the ski clinic on the other hand does not. Which is why the jabs are getting old because it doesn't happen here on the site. There is a whole different side of the ski clinic that not a lot of people know about. I don't hate them, I purchase products from them all the time, my opinion here is just what I hear from people who have. I will continue to buy products from them but hulls I will not. Don't get me wrong though I do absolutely 100% support hull builders to do their thing, it still dwindles down to the fact that a lot of the stuff that is referred to on the forum does happen behind closed doors.