Battery Tender Lithium Batteries.

RyanO

RyanO

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Location
Gold Coast, Australia
After throwing 3 Ballistic batteries in the trash, our battery supplier asked us to try one of these and we've been having great results.

http://batterytender.com/products/batteries.html

we've been using a 360 CCA one in a dasa 1100 and a 480 CCA one in dasa 1200 and they crank like crazy and have been put to the test running between 12 and 16 starts per day 7 days a week in our Jet Stunt show at Sea World, here in Australia.

They are concidered a 'waterproof' battery and have a 3 year limited warranty.

We have not tried WPS batteries but these are great if you are looking for an alternative.
 
RyanO

RyanO

X
Location
Gold Coast, Australia
Yes. We recharge after every 12 to 16 starts but they aren't close to being sluggish and still read 13-13.2 volts after that. We just prefer to not let them drain too low being lithium batteries for longevity and we don't need them to go any longer.
 
hink320

hink320

Location
sask, canada
RyanO said:
Yes. We recharge after every 12 to 16 starts but they aren't close to being sluggish and still read 13-13.2 volts after that. We just prefer to not let them drain too low being lithium batteries for longevity and we don't need them to go any longer.
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Still having good results with these Ryan? I think I will try one out next season.
 
SpaceCowboy

SpaceCowboy

breaking something
Location
Ypsilanti Michigan
hink320 said:
What do you mean by 'very little trouble?' Did he have any issues?
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When the ski was cold the battery had a little bit of trouble cranking. This also was on a race gas 898cc 230 psi motor running total loss. On his superjet there was never an issue. He is using the 240 cca I'm pretty sure.


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hink320

hink320

Location
sask, canada
SpaceCowboy said:
When the ski was cold the battery had a little bit of trouble cranking. This also was on a race gas 898cc 230 psi motor running total loss. On his superjet there was never an issue. He is using the 240 cca I'm pretty sure.


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Cool, thanks for the reply. I've definitely experienced that with lithiums. When it started to get cool I would have to put a heater under the hood with my 16mm and warm it up for half an hour before I could even start it.
 
RyanO

RyanO

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Location
Gold Coast, Australia
hink320 said:
Cool, thanks for the reply. I've definitely experienced that with lithiums. When it started to get cool I would have to put a heater under the hood with my 16mm and warm it up for half an hour before I could even start it.
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Still no issues with the battery itself and the 360cca has now been used to wet start one of our rickters 7 times (rider can't seem to grasp the RRP carbon pipe issue when sinking the rear of the hull when the engine is off causing water ingestion).
We are only running 195-200psi and have no hesitation when cold whatsoever even with the 360cca.

The only issue we had was one of the guys trying to put a bolt that was too long into the terminal which lead to it breaking but we just used the terminal on the other side (these have 2 + and 2 - terminals) and it still runs fine.

We are using an anti gravity lithium charger even though these say they can be charged with a normal lead acid charger, we figured it can only benefit to use a lithium specific charger and both still charge to 13.3-13.4v .
 
RyanO

RyanO

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Location
Gold Coast, Australia
They have officially now outlasted 1 Deka.

Deka's are good strong batteries but I'm not a fan. When they get dropped too low, they never hold charge the same again.. similar to a lithium battery.

It's being replaced with a Battery Tender battery.
 
CJ555

CJ555

Location
PHILLY
Can anyone recommend what size I should get if I purchase the Fast Elements fuel tank w/ battery tray? I'm only running a stock 701 with Bpipe and ADA head ,....although next year I will almost definitely be in a JM 781 BB (if not larger) for what it's worth. Mostly just wanting the biggest lithium battery I can get/need that will fit in the Fat Elements tank/tray combo.
Thanks
 
mike b

mike b

Michael "Mayhem" Bevacqua aka MikeyChan
Location
California
^what's the heaviest battery that should be used in the gas tank/ battery trays made for the pfp pipe. I've been using a heavy battery and considering changing locations or to smaller battery
 
speedysprocket

speedysprocket

Alex
Location
Chesapeake, VA
mike b said:
^what's the heaviest battery that should be used in the gas tank/ battery trays made for the pfp pipe. I've been using a heavy battery and considering changing locations or to smaller battery
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Yeah... I run an Anti Gravity on my Fast Elements tank for getting upside down, ran a PC-625 when it was in my loaner ski that always stayed upright. Either way, welds holding the bottom of the battery tray both broke. Only the welds at the top of the try were still holding... So you may want to reconsider getting the largest battery you can and go with one that is adequate for your setup. My 16 cell AG has been more than fine.
 
V

Viperpilot

Location
cookeville,tennessee
Lithium is not suited for what a lead acid battery is meant for. I work in a 2 billion dollar lithium battery plant that makes cells for a car. I troubleshoot/repair equipment such as robots etc. I have other hobbies closely locked with lithium batteries. They can do what a lead acid can do but they are not meant to be 100% charged all the time. Ill abuse cheap cells without care but I wouldnt waste money on a $200 replacement for what a $30 lawn mower battery can do. If I want lighter...lower resistance I use chrome plated lead batteries. I cant believe it took them this long to figure out chrome plating lead.

edit--- a total loss system would benefit from lithium and they would pair together nicely. Im considering trying out some super capacitors I have laying around. I have some D cell sized capacitors that can crank 500 amps for well over long enough to start an engine and they love being abused.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6X-3000F-2-...764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3bc2e4ec

youll get 1100 amps out of these and they weigh less than a pound
 
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V

Viperpilot

Location
cookeville,tennessee
they are gasless so you can assemble a pack and dunk them in epoxy. i posted that ebay listing for example only. 3000 farad is way overkill. 350 farad is enough. You cant kill these things. short circuit them or do whatever you want. they last 1000 times longer than LIPO, LIFE, etc. Semi trucks have started using these instead of batteries due to their huge current rate.
 
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