BLACKJACKS-Factual Footage

[GIL]

Don't worry guys he's golden,he had the carbs set up by somebody who knew exactly what they were doing!

OK guys-I was not going to be childish, but thats just not my nature.

Art Gomez is a very smart man and does know what he is doing. The only question is-are you smart enough to listen to Art and do what he says?

 

[waxhead]

look Gil i am happy for you and your boat. If you want it to idle for 6 mins thats fine, im going for a ride so i will leave you to it.

 

[AtomicPunk]

C'mon everyone that is clearly 1,000,000 words on how well a ski can run trailer.

As many times as I have watched that (I think I am up to 10), I am still waiting to see how it "demonstrates" how well they work for freestyle.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Guys, Gil is just enthusiastic about his setup.

 

[Rickster]

Guys, Gil is just enthusiastic about his setup.

Understood, but that does not mean the setup is infallible...

Gil posted the video and made some pretty big statements, so he should be able to live with some criticism....

Gil - I'm glad you are happy with the setup, now get that beast off the trailer and go ride it...

:arms:

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Those race carbs will never work on a freestyle boat ,don't be silly Gil !




























Sorry Gil just trying to fit in .

 

[Big Kahuna]

Understood, but that does not mean the setup is infallible...

Gil posted the video and made some pretty big statements, so he should be able to live with some criticism....

Gil - I'm glad you are happy with the setup, now get that beast off the trailer and go ride it...

:arms:

Actually, He made a statement and backed it up with proof.

His ski can idle for 5:48 without dying!!!!!!!!!!!




LOL

 

[waxhead]

yeah cant argue with that bk

 

[Rickster]

actually, he made a statement and backed it up with proof.

His ski can idle for 5:48 without dying!!!!!!!!!!!




lol

:439:

 

[Dustin Mustangs]

Seriously if you can idle for 6 mins and hit the throttle and be clean your set up way to lean down low.
Your losing alot of potential low end hit with that set up .Your cases should be loaded with fuel by that time.
Unless of course you idle for 6 mins while you are riding , You would be the first rider i know who does
I could get a set of carbs to idle like that no problem , and it would sound clean off the bottom as well but it would be down on torque when you actually rode it compared to what it could actually make.

Wow, you would think with all the good press blackjacks get around here that Art would get a little more respect. What makes you think you can tune carbs better than the guy that designed them waxhead? Last I heard the crap coming out of your shop doesn't even work, let alone work well. Oh wait I forgot, everyone's an expert on the internet!

:smashfreakB:

 

[junkyardj]

Wow, you would think with all the good press blackjacks get around here that Art would get a little more respect. What makes you think you can tune carbs better than the guy that designed them waxhead? Last I heard the crap coming out of your shop doesn't even work, let alone work well. Oh wait I forgot, everyone's an expert on the internet!

:smashfreakB:

oh snap!

 

[Cliff]

dayum!!!! cut him a little slack. atleast he dont settle for a ski that runs alright. theres a difference in running alright and running good. most people probally wouldnt have ever touched some of his previous setups. nothing wrong with not settling with alright.

 

[waxhead]

ha ha ha
enjoy it gil looks like a nice boat, sure idles well im sure you will have a great time

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Everyone here is an internet expert if you don't believe it just ask a question,you will soon see I speak the truth .

 

[waxhead]

yeah im just kidding you guys I really have no idea about tunning carbs as well
Sorry for disagreeing with your tune.
Looks awesome to me i am just jealous

 

[750SX]

Is that your newest trick Gil? 6 minute idle to trailer brap? haha j/k man.

Boat sounds nasty, but I don't really see the need to idle that long, my boat likes to be on the pipe.

 

[GIL]

Guys-the idea here was to show just how clean and crisp these carbs really are. I agree-6 minutes of idle is ridiculous, but it magnifies the fact that they just don't load up.

A lil background-I started off with the ever so popular Full Spec 48s and got them running really good, then switched to a single Novi 48 f bomb which IMO was no worse than the Full Specs other than it never loaded up the engine like the Full Specs did. Then I bought the Black Jacks and again-no loading up and they really unleashed what my engine had to offer me. I was/am truly amazed at what the Black Jacks did for my particular setup. Would they do the same thing to my wife's limited 701?
Probaly not due to the fact that a lim 701 does not need 2 46mm carbs.

I started off telling Paul I wanted to be the best in freestyle comp. He did not think I was ready for all the power. I then rode Crammit's stuff and started scratching my head. I quickly became less interested in comp (mainly because I suck) and more interested in what I could get my engine to do. Crammit has a bill for me with approximatley 12,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 billable hours of phone tech support that has helped me get my engine where it is today. And you know what? I have found one hell of a good friend through all of this and have learned sooooo much about what does what and why it does what it does. Hell, 3 years ago I did not know a 61X from a 62T and now I have a Lamey that I am proud of and really enjoy riding/working on.

Wax, Charlie, don't make this out to something it is not. It is simply a video that proves the carbs won't load up. As for the rest of the story, you would have to have ridden my ski thru all the changes to see where it has been and where it is now. I am proud of my engine and it is that simple. Tim builds really bitchin carbs, Ed builds really bitchin carbs, Mikuni builds really bitchin carbs, Art builds really bitchin carbs. Art's carbs work better on my setup than anything else has to date and that makes me proud of Art.

Any more questions? lol

 

[Big Kahuna]

I have ridden this ski at different stages, sometimes it ran pitiful and sometimes it has made really good power.

 

[waxhead]

Gil I wasnt having a go at your black jacks i have tuned a set and have found nothing wrong with them at all
I have been tuning these things since the days of the greens and the buck shots , i have tried them all
My findings have been that carbs with a booster are less sensitive to changes in air density , however thats not what I was talking about.

I have found as have a lot of other tuners that having a richer bottom end will cool your cases and give you a more sustained torque hit due to them being cooler
The down side of this is direct effect on your idle it makes them hard to idle cleanly but the bottom to mid hit is worth in a huge way. The fact that your idles for 5-6 minutes tells me that you could go richer on the bottom.
This is not a slur on arts tunning at all as he didnt tune the boat he suppled some carbs jetted as best as he could to the specs you gave him on the phone , he clearly got it damn close

If your happy with your carbs the way they are thats fine I am genuinely happy for you , i would offer you a suggestion your bring the bottom out 1/2 a turn and see if it hits harder but the choice is up to you

To dustin mustang , that thread you posted I asked for the parts to be sent back so i could put it right he choose not to do this, please tell me another company that will offer any form of warranty on customer say so and not having the parts back in there hand as i cant think of one that will. Plenty of stuff leaves my garage and I make a point of making sure they are happy

To WFO Speedracer : you can say about internet tuners as much as you like i have the runs in the real world to prove i have a clue,If you don't believe me I really am not bothered in the slightest

 

[Big Kahuna]

Wow, you would think with all the good press blackjacks get around here that Art would get a little more respect. What makes you think you can tune carbs better than the guy that designed them waxhead? Last I heard the crap coming out of your shop doesn't even work, let alone work well. Oh wait I forgot, everyone's an expert on the internet!

:smashfreakB:

Art did not build his motor, does not know the port spec's. Angles, durations, port timing.

Jared has been around a while. Who are you to say that he cannot tune carbs?

As far as posting that crap thread, remember there is always 2 sides to every story.