Calling out LPW (aka Pete's Rant)

[the only couch rider]

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[The Penguin]

Feedback on individual sellers and or Businesses is welcome here at the X. We all want to know what type of people and or businesses we are dealing with. But there needs to be some groundrules setforth.

1. Whether you are leaving positive or negative feedback, please do so in a respectfull and mature manner. Do not call names, give threats, etc etc.

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3. If you have a deal that goes wrong, if in the future they do make it right, please post this also. We are all human, we all make mistakes, hopefully any mistakes that do arise is just that, a mistake. Let us know what happened.

4. failure to follows these simple guidelines will result in threads or post being deleted, possible ejection from the site. If you feel you need to cuss out joe blow, do so somewhere else, not here, take it to PM, EMAIL, Phone or the backyard.

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Please see the post by Kaveman in this thread for what I believe to be as close to a perfect "negative feedback" as we will probably ever see on this site.

 

[Frosty]

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[MADMAT]

I am good friend of KennyJ who has a Fullthrottle motor and 24/7 ski. We both definitely felt like we were kept out of the group at the Cleveland ride because of it. We felt so uncomfortable we opted to skip the bar get together that night and the second day of the ride and rode a different beach the second day.

EDITED!!!! Leave Cleveland out of it. DJ works hard to put this thing together and I felt that someone could misconstrue that. At our ages NO ONE should be able to make you feel bad about anything. Do what you want when you want and how you want. Make no apologies and don't step on pepes and screw everyone else.

 

[PancakePete]

WTF are you smoking??????????????????????????????????? No one here could care less about any builder anywhere. We are all poor do it yourselfers and I don't think anyone here has had Paul work on anything!!! Are you on crack or do you have mental problems like myself??

You need pscycological help if you felt people gave a rats balls about what the f you are running or anything else about you for that matter. Put down the crackpipe and check yourself in to a hospital or something.

You are accusing who??????? D.J.?????????? Me??????????? Rick??????????

Their are only like 10 riders here and none of us to my knowledge have had anything done by anyone and even if so we COULD CARE THE F LESS what you do with your money, motors, balls, asses etc...........

Give me a break. Now I have really seen it all and I may just take up golf me damn self.

You are a freak.

Matt, I dont think he was pertaining to you guys, but some of the other Racest riders... LOL thats a new one.

 

[SuperJETT]

I can't imagine it being about me or jetskee either, we just rode and hung out with our wives/kids for like 3-4 hours then left. I have no clue who did whose engine either.

WTF are you smoking??????????????????????????????????? No one here could care less about any builder anywhere. We are all poor do it yourselfers and I don't think anyone here has had Paul work on anything!!! Are you on crack or do you have mental problems like myself??

You need pscycological help if you felt people gave a rats balls about what the f you are running or anything else about you for that matter. Put down the crackpipe and check yourself in to a hospital or something.

You are accusing who??????? D.J.?????????? Me??????????? Rick??????????

Their are only like 10 riders here and none of us to my knowledge have had anything done by anyone and even if so we COULD CARE THE F LESS what you do with your money, motors, balls, asses etc...........

Give me a break. Now I have really seen it all and I may just take up golf me damn self.

You are a freak.

 

[Tuttle]

WTF are you smoking??????????????????????????????????? No one here could care less about any builder anywhere. We are all poor do it yourselfers and I don't think anyone here has had Paul work on anything!!! Are you on crack or do you have mental problems like myself??

You need pscycological help if you felt people gave a rats balls about what the f you are running or anything else about you for that matter. Put down the crackpipe and check yourself in to a hospital or something.

You are accusing who??????? D.J.?????????? Me??????????? Rick??????????

Their are only like 10 riders here and none of us to my knowledge have had anything done by anyone and even if so we COULD CARE THE F LESS what you do with your money, motors, balls, asses etc...........

Give me a break. Now I have really seen it all and I may just take up golf me damn self.

You are a freak.

He prolly wasn't implying you then. :fing02:

 

[the only couch rider]

Matt, I dont think he was pertaining to you guys, but some of the other Racest riders... LOL thats a new one.

thats a bit harsh pete, i think the correct term is prejudicial :nutkick:

 

[MADMAT]

What riders? What group left them out? Why leave and not go to the bar with us CLEVELANDERS then??? F ing puzzies. Sack up. Shut up. Ride.

Why would you let some non Cleveland "racer" make you "feel bad" about your motor??????? I'm gonna puke.

Did someone pay a trick on me and stuff me in to a time machine and send me back to 3rd grade??????????

Grow up. I have no problem with someone bitching but I have a problem with bitches.

 

[PancakePete]

What riders? What group left them out? Why leave and not go to the bar with us CLEVELANDERS then??? F ing puzzies. Sack up. Shut up. Ride.

Why would you let some non Cleveland "racer" make you "feel bad" about your motor??????? I'm gonna puke.

Did someone pay a trick on me and stuff me in to a time machine and send me back to 3rd grade??????????

Grow up. I have no problem with someone bitching but I have a problem with bitches.

I dont know.. I was not there....

 

[njfl]

What riders? What group left them out? Why leave and not go to the bar with us CLEVELANDERS then??? F ing puzzies. Sack up. Shut up. Ride.

Why would you let some non Cleveland "racer" make you "feel bad" about your motor??????? I'm gonna puke.

Did someone pay a trick on me and stuff me in to a time machine and send me back to 3rd grade??????????

Grow up. I have no problem with someone bitching but I have a problem with bitches.

I think that attitude right there is the problem.

 

[blaster800]

The first thing that comes to mind when I read this is Libel vs Slander. Slander is public defamation in a transitory form aka spoken and libel is public defamation in form of fixed medium ie written, signs, pictures, CD, DVD…. So the so called slander would really be libelous statements. However in order to defame something the statements must be factious and of malicious intent. From what I can see these statements have been instantiated with empirical account, but the manner of presentation could be perceived as malicious in intent. However if they can be substantiated as fact it really doesn’t matter.

Second thing is I have seen the dropping sleeves and slow turn around first hand locally as well as some of the other issues brought to light. I am not claiming to know everything about the intricacies of motor building especial in regards to sleeving and porting. I can say in the 10+ years I have been building motors I have never heard of using glue to set a sleeve. The process of heating a cylinder(if that method is chosen) for sleeving is rather precise due to the altering of the material at the molecular level if too much heat is applied or for too long of a period of time as well as slip plane in the crystal structure etc. I DO NOT know the process LPW uses to sleeve the motors but I do know if the same person has two or three cylinders drop sleeves there is a problem somewhere in the process, hopefully the two parties reach amicable resolve. However how do you replace a summer of lost ride time?
As for slow turn around I see it with pretty much every builder some are better then others. I waited something like 4 or 5 months for my Team Scream motor but when it came down to it Chuck got it to me by the deadline I gave him and it was done right, for the estimated $ he told me, and is in the top 2 motors I have EVER ridden, well worth the wait.

The dyno issue: yes I have also heard of the dyno but have never seen a printout or the actual machine. Does it exist or doesn’t it I really don’t know but I would think printed numbers would be unequivocal proof of the advantages or disadvantages to certain mods, porting or any number of variables to a setup. It is easy to claim something will give you a 10% increase in HP but without real data it is a seat of the pants gain.

I do see a very click-ish PRO-LPW sentiment on this site and anyone in the contrary is treated as antiestablishment. I am good friend of KennyJ who has a Fullthrottle motor and 24/7 ski. We both definitely felt like we were kept out of the group at the Cleveland ride because of it. We felt so uncomfortable we opted to skip the bar get together that night and the second day of the ride and rode a different beach the second day. I am neither pro nor con 24/7 Fullthrottle I know Mark but I have never had him do any work, not saying I would or would not have him do work, but I was treated like one of his cronies/anti-LPW just for knowing him. That is just one of many reason why I never post on this or really any ski sites anymore. I have a full life and don’t seek validation from the people on here or anywhere for that matter. I love to rip, I love to build and fix skis but I cannot stand how wrapped up in the social disorder people get on here. People it is the Internet any idiot with a keyboard can type (most can’t spell) something or make claims it doesn’t make it the truth, get over it already. I said my piece if you need me I’ll be in the surf upside down waving to you.

I dont even ride a standup , have a '' signature'' motor, cant type or spell , and I still felt welcome enough to go have a beer and dinner at the bar when I was at the ''Cleveland rock and ride '' What you smokin holms ??? I think you need to go again and try to chill with some of folks next time ! Ive been to several now and the crew at cleveland did a nice job ! FWIW

 

[Powder]

You are accusing who??????? D.J.?????????? Me??????????? Rick??????????

Actually it was in reference to certain person that I have spoken to at almost every ride in the past and I was very obviously not welcome to engage in conversation with at that ride. You and DJ were totally cool I would rip with either of you any time in fact I really enjoyed meeting you and would like to meet up for a ride whenever I am in town. Even if I am a freak. :smokin:

 

[the only couch rider]

Actually it was in reference to certain moderator that I have spoken to at almost every ride in the past and I was very obviously not welcome to engage in conversation with at that ride. You and DJ were totally cool I would rip with either of you any time in fact I really enjoyed meeting you and would like to meet up for a ride whenever I am in town. Even if I am a freak. :smokin:

nah, your not a freak... you just have little to no pigment thats all :Banane36:

 

[PancakePete]

Actually it was in reference to certain person that I have spoken to at almost every ride in the past and I was very obviously not welcome to engage in conversation with at that ride. You and DJ were totally cool I would rip with either of you any time in fact I really enjoyed meeting you and would like to meet up for a ride whenever I am in town. Even if I am a freak. :smokin:

I bet he was on a SKi....

 

[RonnyMac]

So its one person who made you feel "unwelcome" and you bail on a freeride because of it? WOW!
This whole thing looks like a Jersey click vs Paul thing.

 

[SuperJETT]

I bet he was on a Superjett !

I guess you're talking about me? I was there a whopping 4 hours, 30 minutes fixing my start button, 3 hours riding, 30 minutes playing with my kids. I don't even think I saw Powder except on the water.

 

[marz831]

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I didn't know that. Thanks for posting the most educational and informative piece of information in this thread. :bigok:

 

[MADMAT]

Actually it was in reference to certain person that I have spoken to at almost every ride in the past and I was very obviously not welcome to engage in conversation with at that ride. You and DJ were totally cool I would rip with either of you any time in fact I really enjoyed meeting you and would like to meet up for a ride whenever I am in town. Even if I am a freak. :smokin:

Wow. Dude write that dude off as a tard and go out with your local homies then for Christs sake.

To a drive by reader your post could make someone think that maybe they shouldn't come to DJ's awesomely planned Rock n Ride because it will bring back memories of high school (hell on earth) because people will ignore them or condemn then based on anything other that the fact that we are all there to tear it up.

Name names or something but leave Cleveland (refers to US!!!) out of it.

Sorry for rant but it still makes me want to hang myself that you allowed yourself and you friend to be bothered by some pro Paul (or anyone for that matter) dork.

 

[PancakePete]

So its one person who made you feel "unwelcome" and you bail on a freeride because of it? WOW!
This whole thing looks like a Jersey click vs Paul thing.

People posted many truths, so you can post the BS you want to try and stick up... There is alot more Powder could post but he does not want to rip him apart and lower himself... He has plenty !
But since all this is BS from Kavemen, Me, Cramit, NjFl, and others to come.. your saying we all lairs about things said here... is that it RONNY ! Or is Milf your best Friend and Paul is her husband.