- Location
- Edmonton, AB
Custom/Hybrid Custom Hull that rides like a superjet! Rec SKI
- Thread starter shadowrider
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Brandon
why is that? how do they ride if you do manage to get a hold of one?
- Location
- Grand Rapids
Yea but a rok-r rides nothing like a superjet, where q8's ride like a great rec hull.
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- Location
- Annapolis, MD
I love my Fs2. But we ride in a area where boats we chase on average are 50ft. Last night ran with one 75-80ft throwing a 6-7ft wake. So flipping a stock Sj is possible here! The Rickter fits me perfect to chase boats wide open, no bounce, it can turn, roll, flip, stab if you got the skill an decent boats. I bet if you road a Fs2 you'd say " what's a super jet? What's a Sxr? "
trinity seems to be a great ski. I still wanna build one some day. Builder told me 5 weeks from order date to my house. But go ride hulls then choose. A flatwater ski is useless in our area and sounds like for what you wanna do too.
Bottom line pick a hull that fits your riding conditions not whats the new " cool " then decide if your actually going to flip/roll it get serious other wise if you don't do all that why bother spending thousands?
trinity seems to be a great ski. I still wanna build one some day. Builder told me 5 weeks from order date to my house. But go ride hulls then choose. A flatwater ski is useless in our area and sounds like for what you wanna do too.
Bottom line pick a hull that fits your riding conditions not whats the new " cool " then decide if your actually going to flip/roll it get serious other wise if you don't do all that why bother spending thousands?
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Rowley286
Godspeed #40J
- Location
- Midland, MI
^Exactly why I can't wait to get an fs2. Just waiting on my bob hull to sell :banghead:
sjetrider
615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
- Location
- in the 615 (Nashville)
a Q8 rides like a rec hull since when? Did they change the design of the Q8 in last year. They ride NOTHING like a rec hull at all.
sjetrider
615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
- Location
- in the 615 (Nashville)
Not sure you will ever get a straight answer to this question bro. I hate it for you. I do hate to see people send BIG$ on hulls that go obsolete for them because they are to heavy or long to go big in flatwater or are to squirelly to chase boats on. I can honestly say I know peeps that bought an FS2 and love but wish it were lighter, seen people buy BOBs and couldnt sell it fast enough because they were misserable chasing boats and rec riding.
so...........
While you think right this second (i wont ever wanna flip in flatwater or do 360's in flatwater) you may have the desire soon after buying a Rickter.
If you choose a good, short, light hull that is well designed you will be able to do BOTH.
Its my opinion that the short -6.5 to -10" carbon freak badass hull is the best (from MY experience) all around hull made for doing BOTH.
A -5.5" will work but most I know wish for shorter in time.
The Backy Chan seems close as well, I do not have alot of time on it but the time I had on it was EASY and it controlled well at speed and seemed to hook up well.
KDX will work but it will take some serious getting used to for chasing boats down. It is a better flatwater freestyle hull than the freak badass but for that same reason it is squirelly on top.
Rickter's are awesome rec boats but IMO too heavy for flatwater unless you have serious power.
Your cannot go wrong with a carbon freak for a good mix, I feel the same about a back chan but cannot say that for sure until I have more time on one. I definately think its a boat you could easily get used to for both rec and freestyle thus far though. I would not hesitate to buy one if I needed one right now.
Hope this helps bro. I am not selling ANYONES product because of who they are, I am a rider like you who likes trying ALOT of different setups. I support what I like, not who I like.
EME hulls not rec but Q8 is a good freestyle hull stay away from a sky period
BOB not rec IMO but I have not tried a Gen 3 or Hurricane so maybe someone non bias can chime in on those
Trinity all I have seen were not flatwater worthy but fine for rec
ROK carbon hulls are super fun, glass hulls too heavy for flatwater great rec hulls but tough in rough water like inlets as they are nose down and tend to sub
ROK-R very little time on one but I could see where they would take some getting used to
Backy Chan very little time on one but seemed nice, stable and light as well as short enough for freestyle seemed noce all around
Freak Badass shorter the better IMO and go carbon period all carbon ones are nice -5.5 or more will give you a nice rec and freestyle combo and even a nice surf slasher
Rickters for flatwater I think it would take the ninja for me to be impressed, awesome rec boats for sure way better than an sj but just a great rec hull IMO
KDX awesome flatwater but would not want it for boat chasing or surf riding, that being said I WANT ONE FOR THE LOCAL RAMP BAD LOL
Freak Circus not enough time on one to comment, super short and fun at the ramp but no time rec riding yet so cannot really say
Wammer hull just an SJ bro, waste of time and $ IMO
Stunt All around nose plowing POS
In case my first post was not clear I figured I would break my thoughts down here in hopes it helps some. Hope no one hates on my thoughts as they are just that MY thoughts and thats what thios Forum is all about right.
so...........
While you think right this second (i wont ever wanna flip in flatwater or do 360's in flatwater) you may have the desire soon after buying a Rickter.
If you choose a good, short, light hull that is well designed you will be able to do BOTH.
Its my opinion that the short -6.5 to -10" carbon freak badass hull is the best (from MY experience) all around hull made for doing BOTH.
A -5.5" will work but most I know wish for shorter in time.
The Backy Chan seems close as well, I do not have alot of time on it but the time I had on it was EASY and it controlled well at speed and seemed to hook up well.
KDX will work but it will take some serious getting used to for chasing boats down. It is a better flatwater freestyle hull than the freak badass but for that same reason it is squirelly on top.
Rickter's are awesome rec boats but IMO too heavy for flatwater unless you have serious power.
Your cannot go wrong with a carbon freak for a good mix, I feel the same about a back chan but cannot say that for sure until I have more time on one. I definately think its a boat you could easily get used to for both rec and freestyle thus far though. I would not hesitate to buy one if I needed one right now.
Hope this helps bro. I am not selling ANYONES product because of who they are, I am a rider like you who likes trying ALOT of different setups. I support what I like, not who I like.
EME hulls not rec but Q8 is a good freestyle hull stay away from a sky period
BOB not rec IMO but I have not tried a Gen 3 or Hurricane so maybe someone non bias can chime in on those
Trinity all I have seen were not flatwater worthy but fine for rec
ROK carbon hulls are super fun, glass hulls too heavy for flatwater great rec hulls but tough in rough water like inlets as they are nose down and tend to sub
ROK-R very little time on one but I could see where they would take some getting used to
Backy Chan very little time on one but seemed nice, stable and light as well as short enough for freestyle seemed noce all around
Freak Badass shorter the better IMO and go carbon period all carbon ones are nice -5.5 or more will give you a nice rec and freestyle combo and even a nice surf slasher
Rickters for flatwater I think it would take the ninja for me to be impressed, awesome rec boats for sure way better than an sj but just a great rec hull IMO
KDX awesome flatwater but would not want it for boat chasing or surf riding, that being said I WANT ONE FOR THE LOCAL RAMP BAD LOL
Freak Circus not enough time on one to comment, super short and fun at the ramp but no time rec riding yet so cannot really say
Wammer hull just an SJ bro, waste of time and $ IMO
Stunt All around nose plowing POS
In case my first post was not clear I figured I would break my thoughts down here in hopes it helps some. Hope no one hates on my thoughts as they are just that MY thoughts and thats what thios Forum is all about right.
- Location
- Annapolis, MD
The definition of boat chasing is different depending on who you talk to. There's a big difference between chasing a wake board boat on a glassy lake and chasing a 45' sport fish on a river with constant wind chop and cross wakes from other boats. In general the shorter the hull the worse it will be in chop, its just a matter of finding the happy medium that works right for you.
sjetrider
615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
- Location
- in the 615 (Nashville)
that being said I HATE my Freak in 1.5' chop when chasing boats. Pops too much off the deap chop. Ridable but rough. Chaings boats on our river is not that way, but hit the channel of our busiest lake is tough. But there has to be a give somewhere. When we are done chasing boats or there are none to chase the guys here on SJ's sit on the bank while the guys with the AM hulls play in the flat stuff I.E. I ride way more with the AM hull then I would with the OEM hull because I can do both. They have the advantage in the rough stuff (CHOP) but I ride there and when we get back to the spot while they BS on shore. I can also go to the ramp in the evening and have fun playing without boat traffic at all, cant get them off the coach for that. No boat no play.
So its worth the rough ride in the occasional choppy situation to me. I do avoid the main channel as that is where it is rough and it is rough because it is like a boat interstate (YOU CAN EASILY BE RUN OVER BY A BOAT) They fly in and out as you would expect to see on an interstate that has no white and yellow lines (would not ride my crotch rocket on those either).
So to me I am not giving up alot to ride the shorter, lighter hull. To each their own but IMO short and light means more fun more often without the risk of death or no boats showing up at all.
- Location
- UTAH
Thanks everyone for the input! Really helpful! After reading I am defiantly looking for a rec ski. 615freedride I think you are right on on what I am looking for. I am thinking of buying a Rickter FS2 after everyone's input. I think the Rickter will be a good ski for me because it is heavier and should hold up better to the abuse of jumping of boat wakes and beginners riders like my brothers? I have a 93 SN SJ that will be a second ski to go out with rec riding. I just sold my 750SX! I am thinking a Rickter FS2 and the SJ will be a fun rec combo to go out with friends and chase wakes or cruise the lake.
Midlake Crisis
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- Location
- Bakersfield, CA
Anyone know offhand what a stock SN hull weighs for comparison?
- Location
- Wasaga Beach
You will be very happy with that decision.
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
My old SN hull weighed 129lbs with polystyrene foam footholds, turf and no hood.
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Midlake Crisis
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- Location
- Bakersfield, CA
SN hoods are built like tanks too.
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Brotastic
- Location
- Arlington TX
615 hit the nail on the head.
My chan is short and light. When the lake is choppy and i'm trying to chase, its a lot of work, and thats my trade off. But when there are no boats, I can practice 180 backies and other stunts that are likely to fail next to our spot. And in a light short hull, even a 701 or a 771 feels huge.
Very good explanation.
My chan is short and light. When the lake is choppy and i'm trying to chase, its a lot of work, and thats my trade off. But when there are no boats, I can practice 180 backies and other stunts that are likely to fail next to our spot. And in a light short hull, even a 701 or a 771 feels huge.
Very good explanation.
- Location
- sask, canada
I had a Trinity Matrix last year and it was great for chasing boats, not so much for flatwater. I have a carbon Footrocket now and it's a very capable flatwater hull, way more capable than I am that's for sure, and it's a blast to chase boats on. For being a tiny hull it's super stable, in my opinion it's a lot more stable at high speed than the Matrix was. If you went off balance at high speed on the Matrix it would buck you off and you'd be swimming 50 feet back to your ski, the owner before me said the same thing about it too. On my Footrocket if I go off balance it's pretty easy to get it to come back without getting bucked off, but keep in mind I have a 16 mil 1200 so I'm not doing any WOT runs, but 1-2 sec of WOT with a 1200 is plenty fast.
I rode my old superjet last weekend for the first time since I sold it to a friend last year and it felt tippy and unstable compared to my Footrocket, but I'm used to the rocket now. My friend, who has only rode his sj, or any stand up for that matter a handful of times was right at home on my rocket within 5 minutes too.
I rode my old superjet last weekend for the first time since I sold it to a friend last year and it felt tippy and unstable compared to my Footrocket, but I'm used to the rocket now. My friend, who has only rode his sj, or any stand up for that matter a handful of times was right at home on my rocket within 5 minutes too.
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