Dave Ramsey, debt, credit cards, retirement, etc

SuperJETT

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You set the budget based on your priorities. If it's a big priority, budget a lot for it.

With me, I pay for ski gas/etc out of my personal blow money, but every once in a while I need something bigger so we figure a way to budget that in because I like to ride.

For others, it's a bigger priority, so they budget more money.

You do what works for you, there is no set rule on it.
 

romack991

homebrewed
Location
Warsaw, IN
anybody use mint.com, quicken online, or other money management sites?

My cc tracks all my spending, but I do have a few other transactions like my morgage payment and a few other things that it doesn't track. Having it all together would be nice. Plus they let you track your other stock investments. Haven't used any of them before but seem interesting.
 

Matt_E

steals hub caps from cars
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I pay my bills online and pay cash for the rest, out of my budget categories.
An Excel spreadsheet I made tracks the amounts.
 

SuperJETT

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Just started leading my 3rd FPU class today, 12 people in this one at the preview, all ages too from a ~23 year old couple to some 60 year olds, singles and couples, etc.
 

SuperJETT

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Clark Howard:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/02/13/clark.howard.credit.cards/index.html

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- I've been getting many calls from listeners who are outraged or perplexed by the actions of their credit card issuer.
The issuing banks are raising interest rates by 20 percent or more -- even if the individual has good credit, has never been late on a payment or hasn't even had any change in their credit standing.

This is happening across all income levels. It's even affecting successful business owners and moderate to wealthy individuals. Fortune magazine recently spotlighted one small business owner who had a card that went from nearly 8 percent to 26 percent, even though nothing changed with his finances or payment history.

Bank of America, Citibank and Capital One are among the big issuers arbitrarily jacking up rates in the face of what they often cite as a "continually changing business environment." In fact, the Federal Reserve reports 37 percent of banks have increased their interest rates.

The reality is that the banks are fearful of the high rate of credit card default, and they know they've got you if you're among the 70 percent of Americans who carry a month-to-month balance.

The good news here is that there are new rules coming that will stop the banks from retroactively raising the rate on existing balances you already carry. The banks will still, however, be able to raise the rates if you stopping paying as well as on all future purchases.

But what stinks is that these rules won't go into effect until July 2010. That gives the banks plenty of time to lobby members of Congress and get this pending legislation overturned.

For right now, the problem with banks jacking up the rates is that they're making it tougher for someone who might have been able to pay at 5 percent but could never pay at 30 percent, for example.
So they're setting you up for failure, and they're shooting themselves in the foot at the same time.

The only smart move is to pay your debt down or pay it off entirely. And don't assume you're a sitting duck if your credit standing is decent. You can always shop around for a card that has a lower rate. Try looking at Web sites such as CardWeb.com or CardTrak.com to find the best rates.

I also have a special warning for you if you're buried in debt and thinking about using one of those debt-negotiation firms that advertise all over the Internet and late-night TV.

Do not believe these people about their ability to negotiate with your credit card company and reduce your outstanding balance by 50 percent or more. These con artists get you to pay them money as a retainer and then tell you to stop making all payments while they negotiate on your behalf.

But they're rip-off artists through and through. Many banks won't even take a phone call from these people anymore because they're on to their game. That leaves you scammed out of your retainer fee while your bills continue to pile up.

There is a better way to address your debt. Try calling your credit card and telling them you're in over your head. You may get blown off, or they may work with you. If you do get the cold shoulder, go to NFCC.org -- the National Foundation for Credit Counseling -- and find a local affiliate who can help you come up with a debt-conquering plan for free or very low cost.

You didn't get into credit card debt overnight, and you won't get out of it overnight; the recovery is going to be a slow step-by-step process.
 

SuperJETT

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We're still refilling our emergency fund from replacing the water heater and getting the van's transmission rebuild, but even with all of that we still had about 2 month's expenses in savings. We're getting it back up to over 3.
 

SeaLion

Jet Ski Junkie
I never paid any account fees for my business checking account. The past few months, wells Fargo has been charging $10 a month. That bites!
 

Scorn800

Ride for life
Location
North NJ
so go in, tell them to remove it and never charge it again or to cut you a check for your entire worth and you'll bank with someone else!

i dont pay for cashiers checks, "maintenance fees" or any of that BS...

I don't either.
The manager of my branch noterizes all of my "bill of sale" forms for toy deals for free too.
I do pay $6 a month to get original checks back.
 

djkorn1

kidkornfilms
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Cleveland Ohio
My one card is still at zero percent...I am waiting for them to change it on me and break the original agreement.

Wells Fargo just upped the rate on my car loan. I promptly changed it over to my credit union. F'n crooks.
 

SuperJETT

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Mike, Darin, all the others, you all are nuts IMO.
Instead of "fighting" the debt, try to use it to your advantage.
A credit card is giving you the cash you don't have at the moment.
I used a credit card to fund my small business until "the competition" killed it (money laundry, if anyone wants details, PM me).
The "evil lender" is willing to pay 90% of your business expenses right now for a small fee payed over the years, you should be grateful.
They give you MONEY that can make A LOT MORE MONEY.

I'll try to make it as simple as it gets: you've saved $40K. The bank gives you another $360K. You buy a $400K Subway franchise that pays the loan and brings you anywhere from $5K to $10K every month after taxes and you DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THERE because those things run by themselves.

One of the happiest guys I knew owned a few Dunkin Donuts. He did not remember if he had 4 or 5 of them, he was too busy traveling, taking care of his family, he was in his mid-30s, had a beautiful wife and two kids, drove two Carreras and two Grand Cherokees depending on the day and the road conditions. Just a simple guy who got it right. BTW, he never ate donuts.

I wonder how that plan is working out about now.
 

oxnard111

Creative RE Purchasing
its been a while since i've been on the thread...

we still have our mini emergency fund.
still have our large emergency fund.
Not paying into the 401K as recommended, but upp'd the amount.

We are going to hold off for a while on the house.

We just paid off our smallest loan which happened to be the highest interest rate. Moving onto the next which is her car loan.

We were going to use our tax refund for debt payment as well, but I/we needed a new mattress. Bought a tempur-pedic and my quality of life has been way better. That mattress is great. No more sore lower back when I wake in the morning.
 

dbrutherford

Parts Whore
Location
Fairmont, WV
A little update on me.

I borrowed 6k off of my mom and I took what I had in savings and completely paid off all my debt. I had to pay around 10k to completely pay off my student loan. I had to pay around 3.5k to completely pay off my credit card.

The agreement was $500 a month, no interest. So far I have paid her 1500 back (Jan, Feb, & now Mar payments). So I still owe her 4500 which I will continue to pay 500 each month.


I recently got a new work car so I won't be buying a new vehicle anytime soon which is nice. I am living at home which is letting me save as much money as possible for a house. So...

Right now I have 6k in my "house savings account" and around 2500 in my everyday account. That is like my emergency and everyday money account. I get paid every two weeks and I have my work take $500 out of my pay and put into their credit union account I have with them. So at the end of June I will have 10k saved up :) Plus I will get 3 paychecks in July which will be nice.

Only stupid purchase I have done and I know it wasn't the smartest thing to do but... my work gives up to 3k for 3 years 0% interest loans for personal computer purchases. So I borrowed 2800 and went out and got a new laptop, docking station, wireless mouse/keyboard, 24" monitor, 500 GB external hard drive, USB TV tuner, ect... I know it wasn't the smartes decision but I plan on keeping this computer stuff for at least 5 years. They take the money out of my check before I ever get it. But it is about 80 a month.

I did sell off all of my old stuff on eBay and got 800 back. I put it back in the bank. Plus I just got a 2400 work bonus before taxes. Well I ended up with around 1400 which I thik is total BS and Obama needs to fix crap like that. No since for people making less than say 150k a year to get nailed with taxes on bonuses. But I was smart and wrote a check to the work credit union to put 2k in that account. With the 4 i had that made up the 6k for a house downpayment/closing costs.

Only other thing I can think of not being the wisest is only contributing 4% to my 401k. That is the max company match. I feel right now I need the cash more for myself to buy a house. I will take more of a hit if I was to take a loan out on my 401k so I am best to have that extra cash more easily available.


So if you ask me, I am sitting pretty. I have a great job with a natural gas company. I have a company car I get to commute to work in. I am even eligible for overtime even though I am a salaried engineer with the company. Our business is stable even in the wake of all the bad economy stuff. I provide a valued service to the company which is desperatly needed. I have several years worth of work currently. I live at home so if something would happen I won't be out on the streets. I only owe my mom money which I am paying back each month, never late and never short. I have money in the bank for emergencies (my truck may go all POS on me at some point). All that said... I really really want my own place. But purchasing a house is a real PITA!

Enough said....

DBR
 
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