EME 800 vs. RICKTER fs-1 --> performance and reliability

[zak111]

You got 25k to spend. You know very little about wrenching. Which of these new skis would you take? Using the ski for freestyle. I am an intermediate rider. I am throwing down barrel rolls just not landing them.

I was looking at the EME 800 or a Rickter fs1 with Thrust built dasa 6mm stoker. The skis gotta perform but I also dont want it sitting on the dock waiting for a mechanic buddy to come take a look at it.

On another note, just joined x-h20. Hope to make it a home away from home.

Thank you

 

[Big Kahuna]

Go with the FS1 but have thrust reinforce the hull for flatwater.

 

[chriselmore_1]

hmmmm if your payin 6-8 grand on a hull the last thing you should have to do in reinforce... theres other options...

 

[zak111]

What are other options? Is reinforcing the hull necessary?

Thanks

 

[MADMAT]

You Will be wrenching and/pr learning how to wrench NO MATTER what you get ....IMO...:icon16:

 

[tipafew]

I have ridden a couple Fs1's but no EME's. The Fs1 is a good all around boat, but if you are thinking true all out flatwater freestyle I am thinking the EME might be the way to go.
If you are looking for a all around surf/freestyle/rec boat the FS1 or maybe EME signature hull.

 

[zak111]

For sure no surf. I definitely want to improve and continue to try new freestyle tricks. I assume both these skis are backflippable once I feel comfortable to try it. Still no decision made tho...

 

[Aircraftsalz]

You Will be wrenching and/pr learning how to wrench NO MATTER what you get ....IMO...:icon16:

I never touch my motor, I don't change plugs, I don't touch the carbs, nothing!!!! Over 75 gallons 10 mil XS1000 stroker!!!! If you buy the right set up, its gas & ride!!!!!



Thrust built dasa 6mm stoker FS1.

I rode Brian's 6mil/Rickter FS1, great ski, motor pulls nice. Its hard to go wrong with a Rickter. Great all around ski that you will enjoy for sure.

My vote's for the Rickter!

 

[Aircraftsalz]

When Brian built his FS1 it's re enforced, but the Carbon ski's are stronger then the fiberglass version but the extra enforcement always helps.

 

[zak111]

Thanks for all the insight guys.

Why do people say that the eme 800 is for pure flatwater freestyle. WHat aspects of this ski make it better for this type of riding while the Rickter is better for all around ski.

 

[tightithrash]

the hull its self doesnt make a difference on wrenching..... and if you get the DASA motor, you pry wont do any.

id go with the rickter.

 

[Aircraftsalz]

My buddy Lucas rides both surf & flatwater, I would say he's become a hell of a rider in the last 1yr. He's riding a 08 SJ for surf & a Superfreak/XS1000 for flatwater. He rode the Q8 at Daytona & wasn't pleased with it....He enjoys the Rickter & I would guess he'll have one in the next yr.

The Rickter is just the best of both worlds, more stable than a oem SJ, but with the right power is great at flatwater & surf with the same hull. You can't go wrong with the Rickter, imo.... That said I'm Riding a carbon FS1 with XS1000 under the hood.

 

[zak111]

how would you compare your 1000 rickter to the one i am looking at?
Why does this ski only require pump gas while the eme 800 requires race fuel?

Thanks again

 

[RaisinBread]

the eme probably has higher compression and thats the reason why it needs race gas.

 

[zak111]

does higher compression mean a more powerful machine?

 

[Big Kahuna]

hmmmm if your payin 6-8 grand on a hull the last thing you should have to do in reinforce... theres other options...

Go to PWCToday and do some research on the early AM Hulls. They had a nickname, they were called "2 minute" hulls. They were superlight, but were designed for one thing only. 2 minutes at the world finals. The average rider (us) will destroy an lightweight aftermarket hull with pancake landings, throwing the hulls during failed rolls and back flips. You take someone like Rick Roy, Allisandor Lenzi (SP), Eric Malone and they can take any of the current aftermarket hulls and ride them much longer without any damage. There will be damage at some point. Why? Because they know how to ride, how to control a ski. We are nowhere near their level, because of failed landings, improper techniques, If any one of us were to purchase an AM hull, we would cause damage to the hull much sooner then these pro caliber riders would. Hence why some hulls would need to be reinforced prior to use. Yes, some hulls are stronger than others out of the crate. (Trinity). The FS1 have had some issues, that is why I say reinforce it. The wammer hulls have had issues, they have their weak spots. Every hull out there has its issues. So, if your gonna drop 6-8k on a hull, your naive to think that reinforcing them would not benefit you in the long run.

 

[Big Kahuna]

does higher compression mean a more powerful machine?

Not always. But with higher compressions you will get more hit right off the bottom, but there is way more variables than that.
It is all about the package.

 

[masterblaster]

buying a brand new ski will deff cut down on your wrenching,but dont think you can get into this sport without getting your hands dirty unless your rich and dont mind being without your ski for long periods of time. Its not that hard to learn once you get in there and tear one apart. either hull will rip in flats

 

[ShowtimeStocks]

buy a lightweight hull and put a 760 motor in it id say thats the most reliable option anything with high compression is bound to be less reliable in the long run anything that runs on pump gas is going to be cheaper and more reliable in general
there are alot of lw hulls out there do some research on here you will come up with alot

 

[augustaf]

hmmmm if your payin 6-8 grand on a hull the last thing you should have to do in reinforce... theres other options...

I suggest you read up on the merits of epoxy versus vinyl esther and how the hull is cured before spending 6-8k