Engine Size + Hull Recommendation for a 6'4" 225lb male??

[DylanS]

My suggestion to you is to find a aftermarket hull, probably Fglass because you’re learning on it, that has a piped 701 with bolt ons and go from there.
When you figure you have learned enough to move onto a bigger engine you can keep the hull and move up.
Im not sure how mechanically inclined you are but skis break, big engine skis really break. A lot. They get thrashed to no end especially by learners. You will end up spending thousands having someone else repair your ski and you’ll end up burnt out.


a big engine in a little hull is not even half of the recipe to do those cool flips you see all over the place. You will have a hundred attempts into learning how to setup and execute flat water flips consistently. Start on something cheaper and more reliable. Learn to wrench on standups. You’ll save yourself a lot of money and headache.
A decent AM hull and a built 701 the ski will capable of putting you full circle off setup wake with practice. Chris at JM can hook you up with a reliable badass sub 800cc engine too.

A 1100 properly setup is insanely violent and I’d highly suggest you avoid that for a starter lol. You wouldn’t learn to ride bike on a liter bike lol.

At this moment you are the limiting factor not power.

Do as you please just my .2 cents

 

[skywalka]

My suggestion to you is to find a aftermarket hull, probably Fglass because you’re learning on it, that has a piped 701 with bolt ons and go from there.
When you figure you have learned enough to move onto a bigger engine you can keep the hull and move up.
Im not sure how mechanically inclined you are but skis break, big engine skis really break. A lot. They get thrashed to no end especially by learners. You will end up spending thousands having someone else repair your ski and you’ll end up burnt out.


a big engine in a little hull is not even half of the recipe to do those cool flips you see all over the place. You will have a hundred attempts into learning how to setup and execute flat water flips consistently. Start on something cheaper and more reliable. Learn to wrench on standups. You’ll save yourself a lot of money and headache.
A decent AM hull and a built 701 the ski will capable of putting you full circle off setup wake with practice. Chris at JM can hook you up with a reliable badass sub 800cc engine too.

A 1100 properly setup is insanely violent and I’d highly suggest you avoid that for a starter lol. You wouldn’t learn to ride bike on a liter bike lol.

At this moment you are the limiting factor not power.

Do as you please just my .2 cents

Thank you, Dylan. I really appreciate that answer. I was stuck between a 900cc xscream or an 1100 Dasa. I'd assume it doesn't translate much, but i'm very comfortable on my SeaDoo RXT300 and power sliding that going 25-30mph - i have a good sense of balance and weight distribution on that, but i know this is a totally different animal. I was thinking 900 or 1100 because I didn't want to get something I could outgrow very quickly. I will be having someone build and then this for me. Hull wise i was looking at a LSP Revolver. Was going to throw the carbon bun and 50 carbs. Between those engines, do you recommend one over the other? i know you said lower CC, but brand wise (Dasa or Xscream).

Thanks again for your recommendation. Looking forward to your reply.

 

[Msdsuperjet]

I have done a 28 trick combo on my TPE 900 c.o. Any tpe you get, 900, 964, 1021, 1105, 1200 all are really great motors. Best part is the customer support, Brian is one of the only left in the sport thats super active and responsive. Plus Paul Lehr has a ton of knowledge too. I do agree with the above comments, get a fiberglass ski and smaller motor first to get your feet wet. Get used to just being on a ski, let alone an aftermarket hull. Im 6’2 205 and know multiple guys bigger than me that still throw down.


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[skywalka]

I have done a 28 trick combo on my TPE 900 c.o. Any tpe you get, 900, 964, 1021, 1105, 1200 all are really great motors. Best part is the customer support, Brian is one of the only left in the sport thats super active and responsive. Plus Paul Lehr has a ton of knowledge too. I do agree with the above comments, get a fiberglass ski and smaller motor first to get your feet wet. Get used to just being on a ski, let alone an aftermarket hull. Im 6’2 205 and know multiple guys bigger than me that still throw down.


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That's super reassuring to hear that the 900 is more than capable. Would the Xscream 900 be sufficient or would you rather the TPE?

 

[skywalka]

I have done a 28 trick combo on my TPE 900 c.o. Any tpe you get, 900, 964, 1021, 1105, 1200 all are really great motors. Best part is the customer support, Brian is one of the only left in the sport thats super active and responsive. Plus Paul Lehr has a ton of knowledge too. I do agree with the above comments, get a fiberglass ski and smaller motor first to get your feet wet. Get used to just being on a ski, let alone an aftermarket hull. Im 6’2 205 and know multiple guys bigger than me that still throw down.


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How about the Revolver XL hull?

 

[Msdsuperjet]

TPE hands down. Dont get me wrong Xscream 900s can run really good too, but xscream couldnt give a poop about jetskis anymore. Really slow, and completely done innovating. Revolvers arent my personal favorite skis, but they are capable. Like i said tho wouldnt recommend that as a very first ski never ridden a stand up.


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[skywalka]

TPE hands down. Dont get me wrong Xscream 900s can run really good too, but xscream couldnt give a poop about jetskis anymore. Really slow, and completely done innovating. Revolvers arent my personal favorite skis, but they are capable. Like i said tho wouldnt recommend that as a very first ski never ridden a stand up.


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Got it - thank you for your insight! Really appreciate it. I'll report back with what i end up going with.

 

[skywalka]

TPE hands down. Dont get me wrong Xscream 900s can run really good too, but xscream couldnt give a poop about jetskis anymore. Really slow, and completely done innovating. Revolvers arent my personal favorite skis, but they are capable. Like i said tho wouldnt recommend that as a very first ski never ridden a stand up.


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Are there specific pumps or anything i could get to help with that sinking/bilge type thing. I want it to be as fool proof as possible, even if that means spending more.

 

[Sparkplug]

Is get a am hull with a 701.

If your comparing your sit down. Any sit down. To the punch of a stroker stand up. Your in for a big surprise watching the ski get ripped out of your hands 500x in a row. And then destroying said engine from water damage. And hull from repeated pancakes.

Get a am hull with a 701. Ride 2 gallons worth of mix before you do anything else.

I got a bad taste with torrent/tpe when I got charged 100 dollars for a pump seal after spening 3500 dollars on a pump. Everything sold by that guy is marked to the moon because some mumbo jumbo he feeds people. Lost a customer for life after that

Was like 60 for the seal and 40 for shipping. Dude didn't even bat a eye asking for 100 bucks for a pump seal. Lmfao. This was 2 yrs before covid too. Dude must want 250 bucks for a pump seal.shipped now. And you suckers eat that bs up

 

[Msdsuperjet]

Defenitley pricey, but in my opinion worth the cost. Ive seen first hand what goes into the building, manifacturing of these engines and pumps and i can say for sure Brian goes the extra steps that not many, if any at all do.


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[Sparkplug]

Nah. He's just got you guys convinced of that. Like I said. He bought his way into the market. 10 yrs ago. No one even knew who that dude was

But he wins world comps!!!

The world comps. In the desert. With the same 8 rich idiots competing yr after yr in a hobby they appear to excel at, but is atrained mostly from a wallet. And these builders all know that it's chased by the yuppies. That's why the prices are the way they are. They don't care about you. Or me. They care about puckering the idiot who doesn't know a thing about riding or engines out of his money.

 

[skywalka]

Is get a am hull with a 701.

If your comparing your sit down. Any sit down. To the punch of a stroker stand up. Your in for a big surprise watching the ski get ripped out of your hands 500x in a row. And then destroying said engine from water damage. And hull from repeated pancakes.

Get a am hull with a 701. Ride 2 gallons worth of mix before you do anything else.

I got a bad taste with torrent/tpe when I got charged 100 dollars for a pump seal after spening 3500 dollars on a pump. Everything sold by that guy is marked to the moon because some mumbo jumbo he feeds people. Lost a customer for life after that

Was like 60 for the seal and 40 for shipping. Dude didn't even bat an eye asking for 100 bucks for a pump seal. Lmfao. This was 2 yrs before covid too. Dude must want 250 bucks for a pump seal.shipped now. And you suckers eat that bs up

Got it. So if i were to become very comfortable on the 701, is it very difficult to flip that? Or would i need a 900 or 1100 at minimum to flip?

 

[Sparkplug]

Seen 2 dif xfr with 701 flip. Any short wide hull sub 350 pounds can flip with skill and a 701+ engine.

 

[skywalka]

Seen 2 dif xfr with 701 flip. Any short wide hull sub 350 pounds can flip with skill and a 701+ engine.

Okay cool. So the extra $ spent on an 1100 right off the bat probably isn't worth it until i really learn.

 

[skywalka]

Seen 2 dif xfr with 701 flip. Any short wide hull sub 350 pounds can flip with skill and a 701+ engine.

I appreciate the honesty!

 

[Sparkplug]

Nothing puts power down like a jet pump to water when dialed right. Not a 1k street bike. Not a 1000hp 9 sec car. Not a built to the moon 450f with 65hp. Nothing will rip your arms off like a tuned stroker light jet ski. Go ride one. It will humble you in about 30 seconds.

 

[skywalka]

Nothing puts power down like a jet pump to water when dialed right. Not a 1k street bike. Not a 1000hp 9 sec car. Not a built to the moon 450f with 65hp. Nothing will rip your arms off like a tuned stroker light jet ski. Go ride one. It will humble you in about 30 seconds.

I feel this is exactly what I needed to hear. I feel my ego was pushing me to get the larger engine size. Are you able to private message me? I have a few questions and would love you take a look at this screenshot and let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

 

[Sparkplug]

I have a very limited experience. Narrow sighted if you would say. Biased. I'm gonna recommend dasa and rickter. Because they are the most proven. But sure. Message me.

 

[skywalka]

I have a very limited experience. Narrow sighted if you would say. Biased. I'm gonna recommend dasa and rickter. Because they are the most proven. But sure. Message me.

okay. check messages.

 

[Msdsuperjet]

Sparkplug you always seem to come off as a total douche. Never positive insight pretty much always negative. You talk alot of poop, but youre a nobody who isnt great at riding, has owned like 2 skis but chimes in on every chance he can to make himself feel good. Hope you find some positivity man you licoriceen need it lol


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