EPIC scupper sunk my ski

motozachl aka The Raptor has been ripping it up on this q8. This is a great boat for great lakes surf and I look over my shoulder and see him upside down often.
 
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A 2 months old rickter here got the Epic scupper flap torn where it bents, my ski is 6 months old and I can clearly see the rubber is getting cracked too.. obviously someone needs to address that quality issue with EPIC company... both scuppers are the new style with the magnet
As long as that rubber flap is in good shape, even if it doesnt seal 100%, I dont see why would be so "no no" for surf application..
 

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List all the things that could cause a scupper to fail; now try and come up with a single downfall of NOT installing one.
 
First week I have my Richter fR2 Evo1 it tried to sink to the bottom but luckily the ride plate was bobbing up-and-down so we were able to tow it back to the harbor found out that I had a leaky flush kit

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,Second week that I had my Evo it Sunk because the scupper fell off. Fool me once or twice but you can't fool me three times so I plugged the hole 5200'd up And jammed in a pool Noodle , Now no problems for six months.
 
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tor*p*do

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First week I have my Richter fR2 Evo1 it tried to sink to the bottom but luckily the ride plate was bobbing up-and-down so we were able to tow it back to the harbor found out that I had a leaky flush kit

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,Second week that I had my Evo it Sunk because the scupper fell off. Fool me once or twice but you can't fool me three times so I plugged the hole 5200'd up And jammed in a pool Noodle , Now no problems for six months.

ah, the old noodle in the tailpipe solution. nice!!
 
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I feel they are getting thrown in the fire and dont think its fair.
I dont know i could be wrong, i have not run the epic scupper and
never seen one, but i imagine there just like the rest.
 

nucleus_coolins

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I fixed 2 leaky Scuppers last week with one trip to Lowes and a $20 bill.

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Cool looking plugs, Im going to try and grab one of those for lake days so I dont have to trip out about leaving my ski floating. Quick little plug from the inside and I can floaty all day haha. Thanks for the tip!

x2 - Any scuppers gona leak on you, not just a specific brand...
 

motozachl

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Just sank my wamilton hull on the 4th due to a epic scupper...
Scarey aint it.

I feel they are getting thrown in the fire and dont think its fair.
I dont know i could be wrong, i have not run the epic scupper and
never seen one, but i imagine there just like the rest.
I had a new flapper and it torn in half. This should not have happened....
 
Ok guys, I wasn't going to post in this thread due to the fact that you can clearly see that this scupper was improperly installed, but this seems to be getting out of hand and I feel we don't deserve all the negativity that's going on here. First off any scupper can and will get the flap ripped off if you are throwing you're ski around and landing tail heavy with the flap open. The way to prevent this is to sheild the flap from the water by either using a pump dump setup, hull extentions, hull plate that sticks out past the point where the scupper is mounted or to recess the scupper into the back of ski about and inch. Any of these options will work wonders for any scupper install and increase the life of the rubber gasket significantly. This is a pic of my scupper install on my sxr, it works great and I have never had a problem with it, I also run the same setup on my Stryker hull, but will be switching to a hull plate system in the near future. Sheilding the scupper from the water forces trying to rip the flap off, along with regular maintenance such as cleaning the magnet area and replacing the rubber when it wears out and having a proper vent tube/ hood liner set up is the key to having a proper and reliable scupper set up. Having said that, scuppers arnt for everybody....
 

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Jobu

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West Michigan
I have a new fs2 evo coming in like a week or two. I have never run a scupper valve but am starting to think I should plug it from the get go and just run bilges. Anybody have any idea how long it would take for this ski to sink if left up side down? Do I have a minute or so to flip it back over?
 
I have a new fs2 evo coming in like a week or two. I have never run a scupper valve but am starting to think I should plug it from the get go and just run bilges. Anybody have any idea how long it would take for this ski to sink if left up side down? Do I have a minute or so to flip it back over?
Consensus here seems to dislike the scuppers, i personally wouldn't plug it right off the bat. maintain it and you shouldn't have any problems but as a safety go to the hardware store and get a 2" abs test plug (that plug with the wing nut in it) that way in an "oh S#!t" moment you are completely screwed. Also when you pull into shore i would plug it up.
i run the stock bilge and a 1200 gph manual bilge. bilge pumps are cheap insurance i would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
 

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Ok guys, I wasn't going to post in this thread due to the fact that you can clearly see that this scupper was improperly installed, but this seems to be getting out of hand and I feel we don't deserve all the negativity that's going on here. First off any scupper can and will get the flap ripped off if you are throwing you're ski around and landing tail heavy with the flap open. The way to prevent this is to sheild the flap from the water by either using a pump dump setup, hull extentions, hull plate that sticks out past the point where the scupper is mounted or to recess the scupper into the back of ski about and inch. Any of these options will work wonders for any scupper install and increase the life of the rubber gasket significantly. This is a pic of my scupper install on my sxr, it works great and I have never had a problem with it, I also run the same setup on my Stryker hull, but will be switching to a hull plate system in the near future. Sheilding the scupper from the water forces trying to rip the flap off, along with regular maintenance such as cleaning the magnet area and replacing the rubber when it wears out and having a proper vent tube/ hood liner set up is the key to having a proper and reliable scupper set up. Having said that, scuppers arnt for everybody....

I will say this in Epic's defense. I've had multiple brands of scuppers wear out from this issue. Letting the flapper take a beating and not addressing it will surely cause failure. The idea of protecting it or recessing the outlet will help wonders. On my old Freak I wore out an xmetal scupper twice and an epic scupper twice each time it was due to what he's talking about. The flapper being left exposed to continuous abuse with over extension. The one installed on my Chan has managed to live a much better life due to being protected by the ride plate. It works well, but I also check it every ride. If it doesn't seal itself on land it sure wont seal itself with water trying to get in. A scupper isn't a part u install and forget about. It needs regular inspection just due to its vital role. Having a spare rubber flapper is a mandatory shelf item if u have one installed. I'm not a scupper cheerleader because I've seen them fail, but there's a time and place for them as well. Don't send Epic's name down the crapper because the parts aren't being used and maintained properly.
 
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