Epic Slow-mo barrelrolls!

[mr.fixitman760]

I've watched this many times and it still blows my mind! timing is AMAZING!!! tried it a bit on my own ski and it almost not even possible....

 

[IWannaYama]

is that a sj??

 

[Tanman]

looks like the SJ based japanese freestyle hull the Bro Hymn guys and BUN hulls

 

[NVJAY775]

Love all the camera angles and the consistence of the set up wake. Great riding.

 

[FearMyWrX]

Annoying that the WHOLE VIDEO is in slow mo. lol otherwise good poop

 

[tom21]

cool vid, dont be so hard on yourself. He prob has a lighter ski, he is lighter than you, more power and been practicing doing that for years.

 

[tensecrnr]

Yea what tom21 said...these guys are pro,s practicing almost everyday...and do very awesome i dream about...lol but he is riding a bun hull and a 1000-1200 cc motor...if u wanna see these guys in action in person up close...body beach every evening at the world finals....from about 4pm till sunset...fri,sat,sun,mon...everyody comes...xscream guys...bun...brohymm...the bob,s...super freak...the rickters...its a=insane show of practice and hanging out....(((hope to see everybody there...

 

[djraider700]

Light/short ski, light/short dude, big power. You can really see how the hull/motor setup replaces a lot of the body language required to perform those rolls. Not downing the guys skills or anything (lots of technique and energy during their sessions) but give me that ski for a day...

 

[jMike]

Light/Short ski = harder to ride, Light/Short Dude = less muscle to compensate, Big Power = More difficult to control. Add it all up and it equals a lot of practice, earned skill and determination to progress. Light weight and big power add amplitude; almost any decently modded freestyle ski can do a decent barrel roll like this just not as must height off the water. The missing ingredient is skills.

I get a laugh at how everyone is a top ten pro freestyle if they had "that" ski.

 

[djraider700]

Light/Short ski = harder to ride, Light/Short Dude = less muscle to compensate, Big Power = More difficult to control. Add it all up and it equals a lot of practice, earned skill and determination to progress. Light weight and big power add amplitude; almost any decently modded freestyle ski can do a decent barrel roll like this just not as must height off the water. The missing ingredient is skills.

I get a laugh at how everyone is a top ten pro freestyle if they had "that" ski.

1) I can ride a light/short ski fairly easy. I'm far from pro
2) Light/short dude = Less mass to rotate, Tighter center-of-gravity.
3) Big power tends to more of a light switch powerband. Yes, harder to control for recreation. Perfect for flatwater freestyle where you just constantly blip the throttle and then pin it for tricks. Guess it helps compensate for less muscle that light/short guys apparently have.

Those guys have tons of skill. I'm sure they started off on the low-power skis like most do and built their talent from there. Like I said, I'm not knocking their riding. Just pointing out that the hull/motor clearly helps. I definitely don't claim to be top ten anything, but I'm fairly confident that I could pull some flatwater rolls with that boat within a day of riding it. Hell, I do it with my SJ in the surf. Check out some videos on here. I've seen guys who can barely ride a stand up do flatwater backies on those types of hulls.

 

[Matt_E]

3) Big power tends to more of a light switch powerband. Yes, harder to control for recreation. Perfect for flatwater freestyle where you just constantly blip

That depends very much on porting and setup. With a big motor you can afford to have very linear power that's still very big. My current 1000 is by far the smoothest motor I've ever tried - but also the strongest.

 

[djraider700]

That is very true. Depends a lot on the motor setup. I've ridden 2 closely setup 865s that had very different powerband characteristics. Not all big motors are difficult to control.

 

[jMike]

I wasn't picking at you personally DJ; I just get tiring hearing that 'it's easy if you spend $$$' in every thread about flatwater with a light hull/big motor setup. You are correct that with the right progression through skis you work your way to this level, but every Joe Blow Superjet couldn't hop on this ski and be rolling in a day without prior knowing how to setup the tricks. If you have never done a flat water roll having a bad ass ski isn't going to help you do one. If you can flat water roll then this is the ski for you!

In fact just this weekend I let some buddies ride my 900/G3, who have been riding 750's and stockish SJ's for a few seasons, and the comments came back as "unridable and WTF"; they could barely hang on.




Sorry for the derail OP..

Back on track now, I think this is going to help a few of my buddies see what I've been trying to tell them about where the wake to hit is.

 

[Matt_E]

This is why I offer my ski up to ride at competitions. If its all ski, go take it out and put on a show.

 

[djraider700]

It's all good man, i know it takes a lot of skill to do the things these guys do. I can roll my SJ in the surf which I guess makes me a little more confident that, with the right hull/motor setup, I could do them on flatwater. Even with a lot of practice with that kind of ski, I couldn't pull of rolls as good as they can. I'd certainly would try with a boat like that though.

 

[slamb33]

where is the slow-mo fist pumping?

 

[willcastner]

Ya i agree slamb the lack of fist pump is upsetting. Sweet video tho. Good help for anyone trying to learn rolls like myself

 

[WAB]

The only bad part is that the ski has soo much big powa and is so light that the rider does not have to have hardly any body input or movement to complete the trick. He makes an excellent set up wake and just turns the bars and goes around standing straight up.

There was an old vid of Rick Roy slo-mo rolling a squarenose in slo-mo. That one at least had the correct body english.

 

[Matt_E]

The only bad part is that the ski has soo much big powa and is so light that the rider does not have to have hardly any body input or movement to complete the trick. He makes an excellent set up wake and just turns the bars and goes around standing straight up.
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That is not the case at all, based on my own experience

 

[WAB]

You flatwater roll with 0% body english, just turn the bars? legs almost straight with no leaning to the side?

I think he might also have just a little more powa than you currently do :silly:

IMO, the vid is great for seeing how to make & hit a set up wake, but not to flatwater roll a *normal* ski.