- Location
- Jackson MI
i ended up doing that inbetween layers of glass. Worked out well.
Super Jet FearMyWrX/Profound-Dynamics RN Build
- Thread starter FearMyWrX
- Start date
My left side tray box would have saved some time here.
I would have used some double bias (+/- 45 degree) to build up the thickness quicker. The main concern is having a strong laminate not how it bonds to the foam. A few small air pockets on the first layer is not going to be an issue.
If you are concerned with the bottom of the hull, I would just lay some glass down the center. No reason to lay it around the engine mounts or inserts.
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Will do wit the filler to make it nice and smooth. When I was cutting the foot holds foam out, I even started 1/2 above where the hull met the foam so I could get the majority of it out then shape it. Worked well except for on the bottom. Between my hand and the handle of the foam knife, it was cutting at an angle.
I also could just experiment with the 2 part foam we have and pour tiny amounts in there to fill the voids. Might be a lot quicker.
Also as far as tacking up, great idea. We are using fast cure in the middle of the summer so tack happens quickly. Shawn just picked up some slow hardener for the inside of my hull.
TomSki, I sent you a PM regarding a couple diff things.
- Location
- NH
Nice job man looking good. Made quick work of that thing too.
Laid 3 sheets of 10oz glass on each sides and the bottom, then 1 layer of CF on the sides and bottom. Looks good. Shaun and I did work on it with the slow cure resin that really wasn't as slow as we would have liked.
I was suppose to be home at 9 last night and yeah, that didn't exactly happen or anything close to so I didn't get any pictures and had an angry lady.
Will get some pics and post them up stat when I get back to the shop. I think it all looks good, just the carbon on the bottom is only really laid where ti's going to be covered. I am going to try an lay some more patches to cover some of the exposed areas for a more "Visual" appeal.
I am going to work on the Footholds tonight along with lots of sanding from last nights glass and carbon layup.
I was suppose to be home at 9 last night and yeah, that didn't exactly happen or anything close to so I didn't get any pictures and had an angry lady.
Will get some pics and post them up stat when I get back to the shop. I think it all looks good, just the carbon on the bottom is only really laid where ti's going to be covered. I am going to try an lay some more patches to cover some of the exposed areas for a more "Visual" appeal.
I am going to work on the Footholds tonight along with lots of sanding from last nights glass and carbon layup.
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Its all about the surf!
- Location
- Oceanside, CA
Looks really good so far Kurt. I would run the foot holds as far back as possible though. The whole point of a tray length foothold is that you can lock your foot in any where in the tray.
GREAT ADVICE John! Matt and I had this conversation back when I cut the holds. He said the same thing. I ended up going a couple inches further than my original cut. I cut about 1/4 of the way of where it starts to wrap around. I believe you and Matt went about 1/2-3/4 way. Because of my lack of glassing experience. I wanted to leave plenty of room for the glass to be able to lay.
Matt was deff more aggressive with his cut. Heres a picture of mine vs. his.
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MattSmith
Wanna ride tommorrow am?
Great build thread! I'm so excited to see you out there with some good footholds KURT! you will become an incredible rider.
Today I did some sanding, laid some more carbon as a visual effect to fill some empty voids, poured some foam to fill in those holes, lowered the exhaust tube and sealed it in with 5200.
Another picture of where I cut for the footholds because of prior posts:
Yesterdays Carbon Layup:
Filled up some of those gaps and laid carbon on the bulkhead: (bad pic, sry)
Nice and smooth (second times a charm)
Countersunk the exhaust pipe so I could use some nice marine grade screws to reattach to exhaust tube to hull:
Was running out of time for the night so I had to speed up the curing process so I could re-drill the lowered exhaust tube hole so I could seal it with 5200 and be ready for tomorrows work:
Learned the hard way, this sh!ts (5200) a MESS!!!!!!!
And Im trying to minimize the clothes I ruin with resin so no, I never wore a shirt.
Another picture of where I cut for the footholds because of prior posts:
Yesterdays Carbon Layup:
Filled up some of those gaps and laid carbon on the bulkhead: (bad pic, sry)
Nice and smooth (second times a charm)
Countersunk the exhaust pipe so I could use some nice marine grade screws to reattach to exhaust tube to hull:
Was running out of time for the night so I had to speed up the curing process so I could re-drill the lowered exhaust tube hole so I could seal it with 5200 and be ready for tomorrows work:
Learned the hard way, this sh!ts (5200) a MESS!!!!!!!
And Im trying to minimize the clothes I ruin with resin so no, I never wore a shirt.
- Location
- Jackson MI
not using gloves and not wearing a shirt....two terrible mistakes lol i did that the first time i used 5200. I thought ill lick my finger like ya do with silicone it will be fine, no no it won't what a pita that was.
Carbon work looks great as does your foam keep it commin!
Carbon work looks great as does your foam keep it commin!
RedTurboMr2
09 SuperJet
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
oh man, that must have been a b*tch to get off your hands. ski looks good, nice work.
MattSmith
Wanna ride tommorrow am?
Did I see some 5200 in the belly button ?
Yes, the 5200 was a pain. I used some stuff called "Lava Soap" as GoJo wasn't cutting it. It took about 10 minutes of scrubbing. Then I went back to the ski and tried to keep some of it from dropping down and got it all over my hands again, not nearly as bad. Then, I just used sandpaper to get it off my hands. No more sink time for me, it was late and we had to get home.
Shaun and I got the footholds done and we are STOKED with the outcome. We though we were going to bang these out really quick and to say the least, that didn't happen. It took about 5 hours between the two of us.
This was our first time using biax, we used the 1708 (17oz) that we picked up locally. We really liked working with it but didn't attempt to do to many corners with it. We did 3 layers on the top, side, and bottom of each side, then tied it all together with one large piece going across the whole bottom. Between each layer, we used 10oz strips to go from top to inside top tray, top to side, side to bottom and everything in between. We used biax for some of the 90* too but mostly the 10oz cloth.
It almost became a game, after we got done with our main precut layers we made and all the strips we put down to bring them together we starting just throwing fiberglass patches everywhere trying to get as much strength as possible. We were doing this without the need for extra resin because prior to placing the biax in the footholds, we rolled resin into it to fully saturate it. This made the process much quicker along with a lot less dabbing with the paint brushes.
Im sure we met/exeeded the 80oz that we were going for. We figured since there was so much resin in there might as well throw more cloth down. It's not the resin that creates the strength.
Overall, if we had to do it again, we would have created a nice lip/gradual curve from the top to the inside portion on the tray. Air bubbles always seemed to accumulate here no matter how tacky or how many times you fixed it.
Damn its over. Does this mean I need to get back to work :/
This was our first time using biax, we used the 1708 (17oz) that we picked up locally. We really liked working with it but didn't attempt to do to many corners with it. We did 3 layers on the top, side, and bottom of each side, then tied it all together with one large piece going across the whole bottom. Between each layer, we used 10oz strips to go from top to inside top tray, top to side, side to bottom and everything in between. We used biax for some of the 90* too but mostly the 10oz cloth.
It almost became a game, after we got done with our main precut layers we made and all the strips we put down to bring them together we starting just throwing fiberglass patches everywhere trying to get as much strength as possible. We were doing this without the need for extra resin because prior to placing the biax in the footholds, we rolled resin into it to fully saturate it. This made the process much quicker along with a lot less dabbing with the paint brushes.
Im sure we met/exeeded the 80oz that we were going for. We figured since there was so much resin in there might as well throw more cloth down. It's not the resin that creates the strength.
Overall, if we had to do it again, we would have created a nice lip/gradual curve from the top to the inside portion on the tray. Air bubbles always seemed to accumulate here no matter how tacky or how many times you fixed it.
Damn its over. Does this mean I need to get back to work :/
- Location
- Orange County, CA
i want to test this set up.
i like the rickter holds i have in my sn. feels really secure. I'm curious how confident i would feel with the open-ness of these holds
i like the rickter holds i have in my sn. feels really secure. I'm curious how confident i would feel with the open-ness of these holds
It's Bad Ass! I rode MattSmiths' ski for the fist time and I'VE NEVER FELT MORE COMFORTABLE ON A SKI THAN ON THIS. The option to beable to move your foot wherever you want, when ever your want to accommodate whatever maneuver is priceless in my opinion. I've tried several different footholds in other peoples and wasn't really impressed. Onces I liked the most were the WaterCraft Factorys.
But even then, I move my feet around a lot, just like in bed, I move around lot. Never just comfortable in one spot. lol
But even then, I move my feet around a lot, just like in bed, I move around lot. Never just comfortable in one spot. lol
Cannibal
Tasty Human
- Location
- Summit Lake, WA
FYI, a $2 bottle of rubbing alcohol cleans up 5200 real quick.
Keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work!
agua
FIshing for Stand ups
- Location
- Seminole, Fl
make sure you get it off when its wet though, Also dont ever used 5200 on something that might have to be removed in the future... I ripped the glass off my boat when trying to get the side rails off. They do make 4200 though.
skis looking good btw, keep it up
- Location
- Jackson MI
that looks so good compared to mine, but i agree the corners were where the bubbles seemed to go on for days.