First time MSD Total Loss Install & Setup

[BrightE's]

I picked up a complete used MSD Total Loss dual channel system (2530) early in the year and want to get the thing going to install. I have the install directions for the electrical schematics and everything which I think I can get through, but the finding the TDC part is eluding me.

I'm not really sure what I need to do this, and how to go about it and any pointers would be a huge help.

 

[Byeai]

Get a dial indicator to be exact tdc

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[Byeai]

The instructions suck but if u read it and read it again and again u will start to understand it pm me if u have questions

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[BrightE's]

Get a dial indicator to be exact tdc

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Do they make one that threads into the cylinder head or should I get a locking/magnet rig too to hold it stationary? I saw a ton of people using a degree dial plate too, should I pick one of those up in the mean time?

Edit: This would be it right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PVL-IGNITIO...OTORCYCLE-SPARK-PLUG-THREAD-NEW-/151284248846

 

[Byeai]

Yes that would be right but u can get a dial indicator from Harbor freight for a fee bucks but if u can find just that threaded price with the set screw then there u go lol

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[BrightE's]

It looks like I can't escape this predicament without dropping at least $35! I found this dial gauge adapter for $20 http://www.ladspecialties.com/prod_c-tiag1.html but I almost prefer to just make my own out of a bust spark plug.

No one out there would absolutely want me to borrow their TDC gauge for like 2 days would they??

 

[Byeai]

I tried the spark plug think but I used a non fouler piece from advance and drilled the hole out a bit more

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[speedysprocket]

You bought an ignition system worth $800-$1000 and don't want to spend $35 to make sure your timing is right...? Why not just go back to stock ignition...
Seriously, dial gage is a good tool to have. Find your TDC and mark your advance with it; no degree wheel needed.

 

[Byeai]

U don't need 35 bucks use a non fouler from advance auto and a dial indicator from Harbor freight

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[BrightE's]

You bought an ignition system worth $800-$1000 and don't want to spend $35 to make sure your timing is right...? Why not just go back to stock ignition...
Seriously, dial gage is a good tool to have. Find your TDC and mark your advance with it; no degree wheel needed.

My jet ski piggy bank is quickly evaporating with my build so saving a few bucks here and there goes a long ways.

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[keith t]

There are some ways to save a few $ here and there, trust me the timing with total loss is not one area i would want to get wrong

 

[Pablo]

Bright...

I don't own a degree wheel but I print one off the web every time I set up a TL. I find one that measures real close to FW diameter, print it, cut it out and a center hole and tape it to FW with my degree marks matching the MSD marks already on FW. As for a TDC gauge, that's one of those things you'll need and reuse with TL systems and periodic rebuilds. Just grab one from harbor freight and be nice too it. I bought mine 8 years ago and it still works fine.


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[keith t]

Print out and tape to a cd, hole in cd is just nice for flywheel bolt

 

[jetpilot36]

TDC should be the piston closest to the flywheel at its very most top point? (corect me if im wrong, its been a while since i timed my TL) but i just went old school and stuck a screw driver down the plug hole. turned the crank untill the screw driver was at its absolute highest point.( there will be a spot where it doesnt raise any higher but the fly wheel will turn a few degrees) just get it in the middle of that spot and you should have your TDC mark. scribe the fly wheel and outer case to make TDC marks. time from there.

 

[BrightE's]

Bright...

I don't own a degree wheel but I print one off the web every time I set up a TL. I find one that measures real close to FW diameter, print it, cut it out and a center hole and tape it to FW with my degree marks matching the MSD marks already on FW. As for a TDC gauge, that's one of those things you'll need and reuse with TL systems and periodic rebuilds. Just grab one from harbor freight and be nice too it. I bought mine 8 years ago and it still works fine.


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Doesn't the Flywheel have TDC and degree markings on it already (the little dots)?

 

[Ducky]

Here is a spark plug non-fouler you might be able to use. They have a few difference sizes.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...-42002/5014964-P?searchTerm=spark+plug+fouler

 

[jetpilot36]

Doesn't the Flywheel have TDC and degree markings on it already (the little dots)?

i know it has the degree marks. but even if it does have a TDC mark on the flywheel, theres nothing on the case or cover to line up the marks with. thats why i always scribe a mark on the crank case.

 

[Pablo]

Doesn't the Flywheel have TDC and degree markings on it already (the little dots)?

Yes.

I agree with last post too....scribe a mark on cases to acknowledge the TDC mark.


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[BrightE's]

Yes.

I agree with last post too....scribe a mark on cases to acknowledge the TDC mark.


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So I guess what does the degree gauge bring into it?

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[clouse22]

So I guess what does the degree gauge bring into it?

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i believe it helps you set your static timing more precisely