I know this topic has reoccurred multiple times, but I haven't been able to find the exact information I'm looking for. My concern is the best, but cheapest setup for a flatwater backflip. I know it's never cheap to purchase a ski with this capability, but I'm not completely looking for something cheap. Just the cheapest possible. For example, am I able to flip an SJ hull? Or what's the smallest engine I would need. I weigh around 130 so I'm a lot smaller than most of that helps. I'm new to the freestyle idea, but after going to shows and seeing backflips occur with ease I would love to get into it. I just didn't know if I would need a certain size engine, aftermarket hull or stock hull of any sort, what sort of pump to run, etc etc. thank you in advance, sorry for bringing up a reoccurring topic, I'm just really hoping to get the advice I need for a newbie trying to get into it
Flatwater Backflip
- Thread starter BradyK
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chadman154
#Itsonlymoney !!!!!
- Location
- Dirty south
This is like asking which truck is the best for towing???
Everyone prefers a different hull, motor response, etc. Get on a few hulls to demo, buy a hull and practice. There are videos out of guys flipping 701s, but it all depends on your skill level.
Everyone prefers a different hull, motor response, etc. Get on a few hulls to demo, buy a hull and practice. There are videos out of guys flipping 701s, but it all depends on your skill level.
I've seen a superjet flipped with an old school Team Scream 865 and I've seen people with carbon hulls and 1200s that can't flip.
I'd set a budget, do some test rides and go from there, you might find that what you want is not actually what you want.
I'd set a budget, do some test rides and go from there, you might find that what you want is not actually what you want.
- Location
- Stouffville, Ontario
With practice, and a decent 701/760 w/ head, compression, MSD enhancer, Pipe, tuned pump, you should be able to flip the following
Heavily Modified 300sx (Shortened, Rockered, Widened, 144/155 Pump)
BoB (1,2,3)
WDK Rip
WDK RokR
Backie Chan
EME Mirco
There is a lot more hulls that can flip, but these in my mind are the budget bracket
Heavily Modified 300sx (Shortened, Rockered, Widened, 144/155 Pump)
BoB (1,2,3)
WDK Rip
WDK RokR
Backie Chan
EME Mirco
There is a lot more hulls that can flip, but these in my mind are the budget bracket
I feel like these three are hulls that should never be recommended to anybody.
Very understandable. Really hoping to test some before summer ends, but if not I'll see what I can do in the off season
- Location
- Stouffville, Ontario
I agree. They are very single purpose hulls with varying issues of quality, however they are pretty cheap. I would recommended a Superfreak Circus or a DVX but it just isn't in his current budget.
In his defense he was basing them off a tighter budget
cookn
Kamikaze
- Location
- where you live
I am in no way saying this to be rude or mean but the first two major problems with your question is one, backflips cannot be bought. I have seen this before and you can buy a ski of any price and skill level and possibly pull off a backflip but it more comes down to rider skill and the understanding of the physics of it more so then what your setup is. Sure that plays a huge role in it but you need to be a good rider and understand how to hit or make a wave first. You also need to be confident and know your setup well to get it to work for you. The second thing that stuck out for me is you say you have seen them pulling backflips off with ease. Nothing is easy on a stand up jet ski, where everything may look easy I can assure its not. People have done backflips in the surf on 550's like your profile pic, but they also had a firm understanding of how to get the ski to do that. I recommend that if you haven't already got a superjet that you get one and learn the basics before jumping right into the backflip game, but to each their own.
Yeah! What this guy said! I have a Demo 760 backie chan if you want to try one.
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I probably could have worded my first post a little better. When I say they did it with ease, I almost meant they looked to have been doing it for quite some time and it seemed to almost come natural, like riding a bike. Also, my first instinct wasn't to jump straight into flips, but if we're staying on a budget I could purchase a ski that was capable of flipping at some point. One that I would get used to while starting at more simple tricks and working my way up. I understand it all takes technique and form, which I am willing to dedicate a long time to learning. Sorry if it came off the wrong way, and I would love to own a superjet first then figure out where I stand, just thought I'd get an idea for future plans
I would love to try one! Unfortunately I'm sure you don't live anywhere near me
I'm located in north GA. My ski is on lake Hartwell at our lakehouse, but I live primarily closer to Lake Lanier. And I go to any events on those lakes I possibly can, but I would be willing to venture a little ways away to demo a ski
cookn
Kamikaze
- Location
- where you live
For sure and I didn't think it came across the wrong way but there are lots of people out there that would be willing to tell you if you buy their ski for 15k or whatever the price may be and then tell you that you will be able to do backflips no problem. I would say if you start with a supejet and build up a strong engine pump package that works well for you and then when the time is right move into an aftermarket hull you will be in the same direction most riders head.
I could find a way to get you a test ride. I recommend riding a few different hulls before you buy any.
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I am very interested, thank you so much! If you wouldn't mind, could you PM me and we could work something out? Not necessarily this weekend by any means, but whatever is convenient for you
- Location
- Charlotte NC
The southern fired ride is coming up pretty soon. Would be a good chance for you to ride a bunch of aftermarket hulls.