Surfriding freestyle ski specs rickter,freak

Matt_E

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im not trying to rip anyone off im asking for a simple length and width which isnt too diffifcult to get. although the quality and innovation of a superfreak and some other skis is top notch from what ive read i cannot justify spending 7k plus then do paint and whatever else when this is what i do for a living and have tons and tons of different materials. everyone starts with something whether its a superjet or sxr and chopped from there i have an idea of what im going to do just looking for a good length to start at this isnt some backyard hackjob either i plan to do some very quality stuff

You're a man of contradictions.
Good luck.
 

WaveDemon

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i cannot justify spending 7k plus then do paint and whatever else when this is what i do for a living and have tons and tons of different materials.

I assure you that you will spend less time earning 7k in a similar field than the time it will take you to make multiple generations of a hull to make it ride, weigh, and last like a superfreak.


Financial reasons is not a good reason to build your own hull.
 
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Take a look at IJSBA rule about hull lenght for freestyle, part 9.2.2. : http://www.ijsba.com/ijsba/rulebook/2011/2011Part5.pdf

Maybe it can help you. Do it larger and shorter than SJ.

My advise : Forget all those negative posts and go ahead and post pics.

x2.go for it dude.even if you do make an exact replica of a 2011 superfreak,its not like you're gona be making these hulls to take business away from the superfreak company.i wish i had some dimensions or info to help you.forget about all the haters.some people hate for the sake of hating.you are taking a RN to another level.you are not trying to totally build something from scratch,so in that aspect,i say try to get it as close to a freak as you can.there is nothing wrong with that.i see your logic as you have resources available to you that most of us do not.
 
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I assure you that you will spend less time earning 7k in a similar field than the time it will take you to make multiple generations of a hull to make it ride, weigh, and last like a superfreak.


Financial reasons is not a good reason to build your own hull.

you are right to a point it is much easier to pick up a hull but all the fun is trying and testing it will take alot of time but its easier for me to make a decent ski and have 10k to spend on a drivetrain setup than it would be to buy a freak and then outfit , and its not the financial point of it im worried about if it was i would buy a ski and splash it then turn around and sell it as new. I WANT MY OWN DESIGN. all the pride is in the product you produce and i hope to display that. plus i dont want the wait time of an aftermarket ski. and there is a market to be made similair to what the bob hulls do for the 4k price all the time and money is in the r and d and i want a good all around ski
 
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x2.go for it dude.even if you do make an exact replica of a 2011 superfreak,its not like you're gona be making these hulls to take business away from the superfreak company.i wish i had some dimensions or info to help you.forget about all the haters.some people hate for the sake of hating.you are taking a RN to another level.you are not trying to totally build something from scratch,so in that aspect,i say try to get it as close to a freak as you can.there is nothing wrong with that.i see your logic as you have resources available to you that most of us do not.

thanks again guys for the support im glad some people see where im coming from
 
Get it goo crazy with it and take pics. I have faith in you........Bring that sheat.



EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION. IN THIS FAILING ECONOMY WE NEED EVERYONE TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE. MAKE A MOLD MAKE A JET SKI MAKE A BETTER CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE.

PLEASE TELL ME THE AMERICAN ENTREPRENEUR SPIRIT STILL LIVES.

THE LARGEST MOST SUCCESSFUL BIZ'S ARE BUILT IN DOWN TIMES. DONT LET ANYBODY GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR MISSION. BE THE BEST F THE REST.


A LITTLE BIT OF COPYING ALOT OF INGENUITY AND A SHEAT LOAD OF ITCHY SCRATCHY. GO GET IR BRO. YOUR SUCCESS WILL QUIET THE HATERS.
 

Lucaumpits

RIDE LIKE U'VE STOLE IT!!
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I bet you give up your project before you know it, But I would like help you

my carbon superfreak the length is

147in long
47in rail to rail
42in tall
and is just a bit under 115lbs no hood

I hope it will help you
im not trying to rip anyone off im asking for a simple length and width which isnt too diffifcult to get. although the quality and innovation of a superfreak and some other skis is top notch from what ive read i cannot justify spending 7k plus then do paint and whatever else when this is what i do for a living and have tons and tons of different materials. everyone starts with something whether its a superjet or sxr and chopped from there i have an idea of what im going to do just looking for a good length to start at this isnt some backyard hackjob either i plan to do some very quality stuff
 

sjetrider

615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
For a Rickter just take a 650sx and make it so a lot of bow spray is in your face. Very few jetskiers will measure and chart technical data beyond size and weight. That stuff is nerdy and not cool.

:dance: your higher than the clouds bro!!!!!! A Rickter handles NOTHING like a 650 sx !
 

sjetrider

615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
You really need to measure, ride and look at the hulls that handle best and take things from all. Measurements are deceiving, where the rocker is, where it is shortened and how much of each are key as well as bondline, skag and intake design.

The reason most people walk away is because truely trial and error or doing then redoing is the ONLY way to get the right design. Someone like Tem who understands hydro technology have an advantage here and will make less errors the first and second time in design, if you have the composite knowledge and know what areas need strength and how to add that strength without weight or compermising design and funtion then your that much further ahead as well.

Make an SJ shorter and it will flip but ride like AZZ IMO, but shorten it and ad some performance enhamcers, hook up enhancers and where to add rocker and so forth then you may have something.

Anyone can take a 650SX and hack it up and make it look a little different and ride lighter but to make it worth having it takes GEN1, GEN2 and GEN3 and prolly a GEN4 if your not an engineer in composites, hydro design and know what looks good as well.
Just an example, Superfreak has made their fair share of changes as has Rickter and others.

That being said, hacking your own up and playing with it is a great idea if your tenacious enough to re-do it over and over.
 

WaveDemon

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Location
Hell, Florida
Get it goo crazy with it and take pics. I have faith in you........Bring that sheat.



EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION. IN THIS FAILING ECONOMY WE NEED EVERYONE TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE. MAKE A MOLD MAKE A JET SKI MAKE A BETTER CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE.

PLEASE TELL ME THE AMERICAN ENTREPRENEUR SPIRIT STILL LIVES.

THE LARGEST MOST SUCCESSFUL BIZ'S ARE BUILT IN DOWN TIMES. DONT LET ANYBODY GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR MISSION. BE THE BEST F THE REST.


A LITTLE BIT OF COPYING ALOT OF INGENUITY AND A SHEAT LOAD OF ITCHY SCRATCHY. GO GET IR BRO. YOUR SUCCESS WILL QUIET THE HATERS.

wow, this thread got really turned around. He said he didn't want to pay 7k for a hull and he didn't want to wait for one to be built for him. people gave him solid advice. Did he ever say he wanted to produce hulls for profit?


If he wants to produce and sell his own hulls or build one for his own gratification, go for it. Just don't think it will be cheaper or faster.
 
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