What is a good ski for surf flat water and freestyle I tide bmx and I have a 550 I have been learning on and I wana start going bigger I wana know what would be a good ski all around is a rn worth the money or would a fx1 be better or would the sn be smarter and what should I put in it a 702 or 760? Basickly trying to go a lil cheaper beacuse I have a low bugget ideas help any freestyle riders out her persnal prefrens anything welcome and apreshated
Freestyle Fx1 vs rn vs sn
- Thread starter bobbyd
- Start date
- Location
- Austin, Tx
A square nose with a 701 is hard to beat when it comes to value. A round nose is always a good choice if you can afford it, but offers no advantage traction wise as it shares the same bottom as the square. An FX1 will catch some flack around here because the ride is different, and the pump is smaller. Having personally spent a considerable amount of time on all 3, I would say you cant go wrong. If you can find any of the 3 for a deal, jump on it. I dont see much of a reason to use a 760 if budget is in mind.
RedTurboMr2
09 SuperJet
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
You're gonna get mixed answers. I haven't ridden an FX1, but i've tried a square nose and own a round nose. I personally like the RN better, but there's a lot of people who like the SN more. If you have a low budget, i'd go with a SN and put the rest of your budget on mods, or wait till you find a good deal on a RN. Good luck, stand ups are addicting and you'll blow all your money on it 
Offroadie
Living the dream.
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- Permanent Vacation
FX-1 for life!:headbang:
I've had a fx1 with a 144 pump, ported motor etc and it's fun, but squirrely!! Sn and rn are a lot heavier, but easier to ride. Ridden sn's an rn's fully modded, I prefer the small squirrely fx1, but that's me. They're not for everyone so I suggest riding all skis to see what you feel comfortable on.
iangdesign
Cats, lots of cats!
- Location
- United States
Find a SN with a 701 or add a 701 and sell the 650. Build the motor and if you can find a good deal on a RN hull then buy it and transfer everything over. I wanted a RN as well but found a smoking deal on a SN and the look is growing on me. There are a ton of things you can do to improve these hulls.
The best advice anyone can give you is find a couple people in your area with all of the above listed skis and ride them. Find what you like.
The best advice anyone can give you is find a couple people in your area with all of the above listed skis and ride them. Find what you like.
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Brotastic
- Location
- Arlington TX
Couldn't agree more with that ^^^
Ive owned and or ridden all 3. I used to be hardcore FX1 guy. And if you like your 550 but want more power, the fx is perfect. They are harder to find and the price seems to be going up though. But I honestly think a SJ is a great all around ski, with any motor. And if the SN fits your budget, there are a ton of threads on here where people are modifying them aestheticly and for more performance of course.
Let us know what you find or if you have any questions.
Ive owned and or ridden all 3. I used to be hardcore FX1 guy. And if you like your 550 but want more power, the fx is perfect. They are harder to find and the price seems to be going up though. But I honestly think a SJ is a great all around ski, with any motor. And if the SN fits your budget, there are a ton of threads on here where people are modifying them aestheticly and for more performance of course.
Let us know what you find or if you have any questions.
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Brotastic
- Location
- Arlington TX
In most cases, to run a aftermarket pole on a sn, you'll need an adapter bracket. There are aftermarket SN poles out there that should bolt up.
There are SN SJ's around here for about a grand with 650's and 1500-2000 with 701's. But from searching CL around the country, we seem to have slightly lower prices in TX.
Guess everything isn't bigger....
There are SN SJ's around here for about a grand with 650's and 1500-2000 with 701's. But from searching CL around the country, we seem to have slightly lower prices in TX.
Guess everything isn't bigger....
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Tmart
formerly superjet444
- Location
- Middle Georgia
Yeah, get the adapter and run a RN pole. Easy way to shave a couple extra pounds
- Location
- Washington
Everyone gives FX1s a bad rap, mine works great, and I have done to it is B pipe, flame arrestors and ride plate (grate and impeller on the way). Although the fx1 is smaller.. It still rips!
chriselmore_1
high on resin
- Location
- san jose ca
No adapter bracket needed to run a RN pole. Just about 2.00$ in stainless washers will do it
- Location
- Granbury, TX
Don't forget to add in the hours spent grinding down the nose of the pole and grinding the stock SN bracket to make the pole rotate far enough in the upwards direction. Oh and also add in the time to figure out how to make your hood hooks work with the new setup.
I have made RN poles work with a (modified) SN pole bracket and after doing that I will gladly throw down $150 for a Hazzard bracket.
- Location
- Granbury, TX
Mod the stock hood:
-remove stock hood liner
-fill top hood vents
-make new hoodliner out of fiberglass
-cut new air holes in the back of the hood
search "slutty hood mod" for examples
- Location
- Granbury, TX
All superjet motors have 3 basic pieces. The cylinder, and cases (top and bottom half).
90-93 Superjet - 6m6 (650cc) motor (single carb):
Cylinder = 6m6
Top Half = 6m6
Bottom Half = 6m6
94-95 Superjet and FX-1 - 61x (701cc) motor (single carb):
Cylinder = 61x
Top Half = 61x
Bottom Half = 6m6
96+ Superjet - 62t (701cc) motor (dual carb):
Cylinder = 61x
Top Half = 62t
Bottom Half = 6m6
The basic difference between the three motors is the top case half. The 61x cylinder is standard on all stock Superjet 701cc motors. The top case half of the 650 is similar to the 61x, but the 61x has larger reed cages and more flow. The 62t top half has even bigger reed cages and more flow potential.
For an average rec rider, a 61x is more than sufficient and easier to tune with only 1 carb. However, with a 62t motor the power potential is greater. If you are modding either motor with bolt ons (head, pipe, ignition) you won't notice much of a difference between the two. Once you get into case porting and aftermarket carbs etc, the 62t will outshine the 61x.
Basically, what I am saying is if you are planning a good budget ski to learn on, you don't necessarily NEED a 62t, but a 701 is a must.
EDIT: I started with a 650cc motor in my SN and rode it until my abilities exceeded that of the motor. Then I built a 701. So a 701 isn't a must to start, but you will QUICKLY lust for more power once you get comfortable on the ski.
90-93 Superjet - 6m6 (650cc) motor (single carb):
Cylinder = 6m6
Top Half = 6m6
Bottom Half = 6m6
94-95 Superjet and FX-1 - 61x (701cc) motor (single carb):
Cylinder = 61x
Top Half = 61x
Bottom Half = 6m6
96+ Superjet - 62t (701cc) motor (dual carb):
Cylinder = 61x
Top Half = 62t
Bottom Half = 6m6
The basic difference between the three motors is the top case half. The 61x cylinder is standard on all stock Superjet 701cc motors. The top case half of the 650 is similar to the 61x, but the 61x has larger reed cages and more flow. The 62t top half has even bigger reed cages and more flow potential.
For an average rec rider, a 61x is more than sufficient and easier to tune with only 1 carb. However, with a 62t motor the power potential is greater. If you are modding either motor with bolt ons (head, pipe, ignition) you won't notice much of a difference between the two. Once you get into case porting and aftermarket carbs etc, the 62t will outshine the 61x.
Basically, what I am saying is if you are planning a good budget ski to learn on, you don't necessarily NEED a 62t, but a 701 is a must.
EDIT: I started with a 650cc motor in my SN and rode it until my abilities exceeded that of the motor. Then I built a 701. So a 701 isn't a must to start, but you will QUICKLY lust for more power once you get comfortable on the ski.