Installing t/l learning curve
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what the hell is "sun drop?"
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moved to the South in Jul of 1983 and drank my 1st one, I have averaged 12 a day since then along w/about 3 gallons of milk per week! If someone held a gun to my head and made me choose Sun Drop or poonany for the rest of my life, I might very well be the new oldest virgin.
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I found it to be simply amazing at the difference in the hit w/u go to 36deg static. Now I can't tell what made the biggest difference, the 240psi or the massive advance.
I think the biggest hit will be in your wallet when that engine blows itself to pieces...
Honestly, the hit from total loss is just massive in itself. That kind of compression and such an aggressive timing curve is going to destroy that motor.
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have you destroyed one by doing that before?
Splain please. Assuming that adequate race fuel is used, how is the compression and timing going to destroy that motor?
Splain please. Assuming that adequate race fuel is used, how is the compression and timing going to destroy that motor?
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how about a nice explaination about the proper way to setup t/l.? I'd like to know how crammit does it, I seem to have lots of tl problems and would love to know the proper way.
:bigeyes:Wow I got just ripped up pretty quickly... Based heavily on the the information obtained from you two on how to properly setup your total loss timing curve... Running advance timing a few degrees over 30°, wouldn't gain much power.
Then basing the octane recommendation information for an ADA head on a 701 engine... 170psi should use 92 octane and 200psi should use 105 octane. Wouldn't that put 240psi somewhere around 120 octane rating? It is my assumption that those recommendations are playing it safe but also using stock timing which is no where near 36°. I'm not that familiar with race fuels since I'm a cheap arse but I've never heard of anything over 116 and never heard of anyone selling over 114.
I must have assumed (yeah yeah) it would harm the engine as neither of you said it but you do mention that it would be ok if an adequate race fuel was used. My concern is...can an adequate race fuel be obtained for a setup this aggressive without causing detonation? And if it can...will the performance gains be worth the cost?
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/20015&highlight=static+timing
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/22546&highlight=static+timing
I know we're all trying to get the power of a nuke out of piece of aluminum that we bought for a couple hundred bucks.... I just wanted to offer up my 2 cents on the side of caution.
Static timing is timing at idle.
You can safely run a high static and high compression as long as you run appropriate fuel and pull the timing back in the higher RPM range - where detonation is a concern. (Not in the lower range, really)
A properly set up Total Loss will allow you to run 200psi cranking compression on pump gas. Just pull back the timing on top and/or limit the RPM's.
Stock ignitions have potential to be much worse for deto than a properly setup TL.
You can safely run a high static and high compression as long as you run appropriate fuel and pull the timing back in the higher RPM range - where detonation is a concern. (Not in the lower range, really)
A properly set up Total Loss will allow you to run 200psi cranking compression on pump gas. Just pull back the timing on top and/or limit the RPM's.
Stock ignitions have potential to be much worse for deto than a properly setup TL.
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I'd like to know too.
include the tricks on running in salt water too please. :cat37:
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There is really no black magic here,every connection has to be soldered and shrink wrapped or put together with the special resin impregnated wiring connectors.I used GM weatherpack connectors extensively on all my connections and soldered all of the connectors on to the wires,then packed the weatherpacks with nygel ,put the seals in the plastic blocks and its all good.
I feel very confident that my engine will not have any problems when using a total los, as you have complete control over everything it does. The stock cdi's and enhancers are fine if you want to just plug them in and go, but the tiing curve is decided for you which means your engine setup and riding style has to be adjusted to suit.
TL enables you to dial in a good curve and tweak it to suit your compression and fuel octane. It's a lot simpler than you would think and most people are scared off becuase of all the wires, connections, switches etc....I was dead against them, but after trying every other ignition on the market, gave in and bought one. Now, I woudn't run anything else apart from the ATP total loss.
One you understand the TL, you'll love it, and you won't worry about the endles hours you spend making everything look pretty and making sure all your connections are sweet!
TL enables you to dial in a good curve and tweak it to suit your compression and fuel octane. It's a lot simpler than you would think and most people are scared off becuase of all the wires, connections, switches etc....I was dead against them, but after trying every other ignition on the market, gave in and bought one. Now, I woudn't run anything else apart from the ATP total loss.
One you understand the TL, you'll love it, and you won't worry about the endles hours you spend making everything look pretty and making sure all your connections are sweet!