- Location
- Western NY
Not nearly as bad as pirate 4x4 though
Is it just me?
- Thread starter Big Kahuna
- Start date
smokeysevin
one man with a couch
- Location
- Houston
Pirate just had an exodus as it got sold, someone created "irate4x4" as a replacement.
Sean
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
I all but completely eliminated social media (Facebook) a few years ago. I purged about 300 friends indiscriminately Two things happened to cause this occurrence.
First I recognized the toxicity of the AI algorithms. I was reading a bunch of political news. I recognized that my feed (not my shares but the articles Facebook feeds you) became almost entirely political.
Social media is bad enough by itself. The analogy I use is that you go to the mall and stand on a soap box and start rambling about whatever bullpoop you have on your mind. Thousands of people stroll by thinking you are a complete moron, but a few dozen stop, listen and chant. This gives a positive feedback loop that your bullpoop matters, when really, no.
But the AI makes it so much worse. The AI guides slowly shuffles your soap box over to other like minded soap boxes. Then comes the group think. Now not only do you think people care about your bullpoop, you think Everyone agrees with you. Now a small sample sized has changed a narrow minded view to a collaborative world view.
Secondly, privacy. A study showed that a majority of people utilize social media to spy or gossip on other people rather than as a relationship building / KIT tool. I had people from high school on my friends list and I wasn’t even friends with them. I decided to purge my friends list when my wife got a new car, I went to work and said something and the response I got was, yeah, I saw that.
And there’s one more thing that is important. The psychology of addiction. Social media uses the same tactics as casino slot machines with notifications. Studies have shown that the receiving notifications releases dopamine, the reward hormone. This means that notifications for replies and likes cause people joy, and they seek that joy. That in itself is not so bad, but the push notifications. I have been absolutely shocked at how fast people will like a comment I leave on favebook. Either they never put their phones down or they pick them up the moment they ding. This all contributes to an instant gratification culture.
So no, it’s not just you. Social media and discussion forums are great for connecting people like us, niche groups short of local relationships. However, social media is a substitute for local relationships for most people, and a substitute for critical thinking for many others.
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First I recognized the toxicity of the AI algorithms. I was reading a bunch of political news. I recognized that my feed (not my shares but the articles Facebook feeds you) became almost entirely political.
Social media is bad enough by itself. The analogy I use is that you go to the mall and stand on a soap box and start rambling about whatever bullpoop you have on your mind. Thousands of people stroll by thinking you are a complete moron, but a few dozen stop, listen and chant. This gives a positive feedback loop that your bullpoop matters, when really, no.
But the AI makes it so much worse. The AI guides slowly shuffles your soap box over to other like minded soap boxes. Then comes the group think. Now not only do you think people care about your bullpoop, you think Everyone agrees with you. Now a small sample sized has changed a narrow minded view to a collaborative world view.
Secondly, privacy. A study showed that a majority of people utilize social media to spy or gossip on other people rather than as a relationship building / KIT tool. I had people from high school on my friends list and I wasn’t even friends with them. I decided to purge my friends list when my wife got a new car, I went to work and said something and the response I got was, yeah, I saw that.
And there’s one more thing that is important. The psychology of addiction. Social media uses the same tactics as casino slot machines with notifications. Studies have shown that the receiving notifications releases dopamine, the reward hormone. This means that notifications for replies and likes cause people joy, and they seek that joy. That in itself is not so bad, but the push notifications. I have been absolutely shocked at how fast people will like a comment I leave on favebook. Either they never put their phones down or they pick them up the moment they ding. This all contributes to an instant gratification culture.
So no, it’s not just you. Social media and discussion forums are great for connecting people like us, niche groups short of local relationships. However, social media is a substitute for local relationships for most people, and a substitute for critical thinking for many others.
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- Location
- NYC/Long Island
Another thing I've found is that Facebook groups turn into an angry mob FAST. Try giving your unpopular opinion and people freak out.
Bikes: I suggested a dropper seat post isn't necessary. People started saying that I don't know how to ride. I tried to reason with people that dropper posts are very situational and aren't very helpful for our location. The mob came.
Boats: I suggested that a spot light is useful for boating at night and I'll use it to make sure other boaters see me. I was attacked by someone and told me that I don't know boats. I used a personal anecdote that I almost got hit by a drunk/distracted boater. He insisted that I purposely point spotlights at peoples eyes. He also assumed that I'm not using a red spotlight.
So I think twice before posting now. I don't like to give advice there because of how people act. The angry mob has discouraged quality posts and now we're left with people that shouldn't be giving advice.
Bikes: I suggested a dropper seat post isn't necessary. People started saying that I don't know how to ride. I tried to reason with people that dropper posts are very situational and aren't very helpful for our location. The mob came.
Boats: I suggested that a spot light is useful for boating at night and I'll use it to make sure other boaters see me. I was attacked by someone and told me that I don't know boats. I used a personal anecdote that I almost got hit by a drunk/distracted boater. He insisted that I purposely point spotlights at peoples eyes. He also assumed that I'm not using a red spotlight.
So I think twice before posting now. I don't like to give advice there because of how people act. The angry mob has discouraged quality posts and now we're left with people that shouldn't be giving advice.
I rarely use social media and I didn't know that there were stand-up groups on there. However I'd be absolutely lost without this site. I've had so many questions and problems with my skis that I never would have figured out without all of the help that is available on here. I am forever grateful to all of you guys who have helped me out.
And yeah, It's really discouraging to see how little interest most people have for challenging activities like riding stand up jet skis. I thought surely that I'd be able to bring a few new people into the sport once I had two of them so that my friends could give it a shot with me. Most of them didn't even want to try it because they were afraid that they might fall off and get wet. I don't even know what to say to that...
And yeah, It's really discouraging to see how little interest most people have for challenging activities like riding stand up jet skis. I thought surely that I'd be able to bring a few new people into the sport once I had two of them so that my friends could give it a shot with me. Most of them didn't even want to try it because they were afraid that they might fall off and get wet. I don't even know what to say to that...
DylanS
Gorilla Smasher
- Location
- Lebanon Pa
Dude, no joke. Had a guy ask for jetting advice and gave him general information and a starting point. Got “sorry I’m looking for exact numbers but thanks for your time” lol