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Other than the statement about yamahas and kawis, I'm not sure what I disagree with. Every accident they list involves somebody being stupid. I think its ridiculous that someone with the money can just hop on a 800 lbs rocket with no license or training etc. Its a weapon.
 
If you had to put a 11 year old on a dirt bike, 4 wheeler, go cart, street bike, car, skateboard or jetski. Which one would pick? its funny how them make kid dirt bikes and 4 wheelers where they need no training and if they fall off they are landing on god knows what. Maybe they should take a hard look at the people who puts kids on these high HP machines. Sure I have a js300 that kids ride but I take them to a place where there ate no boats and i ride along side them with my sxr.
 
fox news = republicans= people who advocate small government yet have no problem expanding government to the point of rediculousnes in some areas. (military, personal liberties)

That being said a lot of people on skis have no idea what the hell they are doing, I would guess most these accidents are with kids whos parents didnt train them properly and now they're going to ruin it for everybody with over regulation.
 
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How is advocating more personal liberties an expansion of government?


Republicans are advocating more personal liberties?

Without wanting to discuss any item specifically:
Patriot Act
Opposition to medical marijuana or decriminalization
Gay rights
Abortion rights
4th Amendment violations (welfare drug testing just as an example)
Indefinite detentions without trial
No Habeas Corpus
Restrictions on voting rights
Restrictions on gun ownership (yes, by Republicans)

I think it's humorous to claim Republicans are champions of personal liberties. Same for most democrats.

Edit: yah I realize a lot of what I listed is controversial and offensive to some beliefs. Tough chit, that's why personal liberties typically have to be defended. Personal liberties no less.
 
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Republicans are advocating more personal liberties?

Without wanting to discuss any item specifically:
Patriot Act
Opposition to medical marijuana or decriminalization
Gay rights
Abortion rights
4th Amendment violations (welfare drug testing just as an example)
Indefinite detentions without trial
No Habeas Corpus
Restrictions on voting rights
Restrictions on gun ownership (yes, by Republicans)

I think it's humorous to claim Republicans are champions of personal liberties. Same for most democrats.

I think he was just confused about what I said
 

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I think he was just confused about what I said

Okay, Republicans are in favor of small government?
The biggest expansion of the federal government since WW2: Creation of Homeland Security and Transportation Security Administration, coupled with a huge rise in federal budget. All with a Republican President, Senate, and Congress (For the most part)
 
If you had to put a 11 year old on a dirt bike, 4 wheeler, go cart, street bike, car, skateboard or jetski. Which one would pick? its funny how them make kid dirt bikes and 4 wheelers where they need no training and if they fall off they are landing on god knows what. Maybe they should take a hard look at the people who puts kids on these high HP machines. Sure I have a js300 that kids ride but I take them to a place where there ate no boats and i ride along side them with my sxr.

not that i am backing the beliefs or views of FOX (i'm not) but in the respect of kids and quads (ATV's) there are federal restricts that came about after the ATC (3 wheeler days) in that if a kid under 6 is riding a 50 c.c. quad it's a violation, and if a kid under age 12 is on a quad larger than 90 c.c. it's a violation, big fine etc.
i'm not saying that quads are safer than skis. i plan to put my 6 y.o. on a superjet this summer, but i'm saying it's regulated. A dealer legally can not sell a family a quad for their kid if they know the kid doesn't meet the age requirements. The penalty for the dealer could be loss of that brand of products (kawi, yam, polaris etc.) I use to work at a dealership and this was not a slap on the wrist offense but a very serious issue.
Dirt bikes have no age restriction, i assume the mind set is that, if they can't hold the bike up at a stop, parents probably won't put them on it, which means that for the most part they won't be riding a bike beyond their means. (assuming responsible parents are invovled {BIG IF})
Watercraft is regulated as well, but this is a state restriction not a federal restriction. in CA a driver must be 16yo or be with someone 25yo or older, in AZ driver must be at least 12.

That being said, i've been on some type of watercraft since age 10, and can say with reletive certainty that children on watercraft are less risky than either A: stupid adults, or B: alcohol related issues.

Without reading the article, it is interesting that FOX would be trying to push legislation/regulation on something already regulated.

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Okay, Republicans are in favor of small government?
The biggest expansion of the federal government since WW2: Creation of Homeland Security and Transportation Security Administration, coupled with a huge rise in federal budget. All with a Republican President, Senate, and Congress (For the most part)

Im agreeing with you dude, thats why I said "republicans= people who advocate small government yet have no problem expanding government to the point of rediculousnes in some areas. (military, personal liberties)"
 

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I don't really watch Fox News but I do lean to the conservative side, and the fact that the OP went out of his way to mention them as the reporting agency of this story implies that he meant to villify them. I did read the article, and with exception to the Kawasaki, Yamaha statement, the posted article was pretty damn accurate. Is this what Liberals mean when they say Fox Lies?
 

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I don't really watch Fox News but I do lean to the conservative side, and the fact that the OP went out of his way to mention them as the reporting agency of this story implies that he meant to villify them. I did read the article, and with exception to the Kawasaki, Yamaha statement, the posted article was pretty damn accurate. Is this what Liberals mean when they say Fox Lies?

not really, just ID'ing the source
I am a free thinker and ALL the lame-stream media is BS IMHO
Just an interesting article, no indictment of Fox/conservatives
 
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People generally want "others" to be regulated and boating is one of the last activities that is not. Once licensing and training are mandatory it wont matter how many die every year. Motorcycles needlessly kill and maim thousands, who is crying a river over that fact? A far as politics go, has your favorite party made a fool of you yet?
 
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