Other JetSkis are the root of all evil
- Thread starter tor*p*do
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Heh, thanks for that post ^^.
The state I live in (WA) has implemented mandatory boater's safety education and license. It was phased in over a few years.
The process is simple enough: read some online material, take online test. The test material is pretty thorough, but nothing prevents the test taker from having the lesson material open on the screen. Pay $20 for the license card, done.
Police are pretty rigorous about checking for the card. Rental customers are exempt.
I don't know if the law has reduced boating accidents.
The state I live in (WA) has implemented mandatory boater's safety education and license. It was phased in over a few years.
The process is simple enough: read some online material, take online test. The test material is pretty thorough, but nothing prevents the test taker from having the lesson material open on the screen. Pay $20 for the license card, done.
Police are pretty rigorous about checking for the card. Rental customers are exempt.
I don't know if the law has reduced boating accidents.
baxt3r
BBQ
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
No licensing or mandatory training will eliminate stupid or inattentive operators. Look at motorcycles for a perfect example. You have to have an endorsement in NC, and that requires knowledge of the motorcycle rules, etc., yet people still run 150mph in traffic and ride wheelies and all that stuff. All a license will be is a hurdle on the way to the end goal. How much of the stuff from your driver's education do you remember or routinely practice? He'll, most of that stuff will get you in a wreck or killed around here.
The point is that you can't regulate behavior. You can try, but it will never be 100% or even 75%. Let these people pay for their actions in criminal and civil court and be a strong lesson to the others. Eventually the idiots will either get killed or grow up. Hopefully they don't injure anyone in the process. Unfortunately, they often do.
The point is that you can't regulate behavior. You can try, but it will never be 100% or even 75%. Let these people pay for their actions in criminal and civil court and be a strong lesson to the others. Eventually the idiots will either get killed or grow up. Hopefully they don't injure anyone in the process. Unfortunately, they often do.
Hey I never claimed that Republicans were advocating for more personal liberties, I just asked how advocating for personal liberties was an expansion of government? He cleared that up.
BTW: Being a conservative doesn't automatically make somebody a Republican. I'm a Libertarian. Personal liberties are at the heart of my beliefs (Don't tread on me). If anyone is the champions of personal liberties its Libertarians.
- Location
- Atlanta, GA
Republican or Democrat? Its like asking if your prefer the guillotine over the noose. Either way you're screwed.
Our nation is becoming more of a police state every day and our liberties are being taken from us. How many of you have been molested by the TSA yet?
Our nation is becoming more of a police state every day and our liberties are being taken from us. How many of you have been molested by the TSA yet?
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- Location
- Granbury, TX
I wouldn't say the article is trash. However, it seems to me that the author needed to write something relevant for this time of year. What he does leave out is the fact that the majority of those accidents were cause by complete senseless idiots (we all know this). It just seems to me to be another "lets get people scared of ______" puff piece.
We have all seen examples of these idiots and the sad part is that common sense has disappeared along with personal responsibility. Everybody blames the watercraft and not the rider. Look at Usher's stepson. He was in a stationary tube meaning the watercraft rider had to hit or run over him.... SERIOUSLY??? How stupid do you have to be to pull this off, let alone careless to hit a stationary person.
I don't know where I'm going with this, just ranting. I do have to ask, why are you guys even bringing politics into this?
As for pwc safety I'd be more than happy if a boater's safety course was required for PWC use. We already get harassed by the law as it is, and most of us are always following the law for this reason. I will say the past year spent using our boat (idiot jetskier magnet) on the river has made me aware of how many idiots still exist on PWCs.... except now they are on HUGE high horsepower machines, not the small 2 strokes of the past. In my part of TX it seems to me the biggest problem is the 16-24 age range (male) and dare I mention the majority of the problem offenders are not Caucasian... perhaps there is a bit of a language barrier... (not going any farther with this).
Half the time it isn't even the wake jumpers that are the problem. I'm in a 19' boat (full of people) doing a straight line at 30mph on the right side of a 100 to 200 yd wide waterway. I've been holding this course for the last 5 minutes that I've been visible to the couchers. So what do they do? Oh, lets zoom at 60mph and then suddenly veer over and pull a 360 50 yds in front of a boat (me). I can't count the number of times I've had to cut the throttle and throw my passengers to the floor so I don't kill a coucher because of his own stupidity. Then, when they see/hear me cussing them out for how STUPID they are, I get a puzzled look or a shrug and they just ride away, probably to do it again within the next five minutes because they didn't learn anything from the first time they were almost killed.
Heck, just the other day I saw a youtube video of coucher stupidity (and to the couchers here, no offense - all idiots are couchers, but not all couchers are idiots). How is it possible people are this stupid (start watching the video at the 6:30 mark))?
We have all seen examples of these idiots and the sad part is that common sense has disappeared along with personal responsibility. Everybody blames the watercraft and not the rider. Look at Usher's stepson. He was in a stationary tube meaning the watercraft rider had to hit or run over him.... SERIOUSLY??? How stupid do you have to be to pull this off, let alone careless to hit a stationary person.
I don't know where I'm going with this, just ranting. I do have to ask, why are you guys even bringing politics into this?
As for pwc safety I'd be more than happy if a boater's safety course was required for PWC use. We already get harassed by the law as it is, and most of us are always following the law for this reason. I will say the past year spent using our boat (idiot jetskier magnet) on the river has made me aware of how many idiots still exist on PWCs.... except now they are on HUGE high horsepower machines, not the small 2 strokes of the past. In my part of TX it seems to me the biggest problem is the 16-24 age range (male) and dare I mention the majority of the problem offenders are not Caucasian... perhaps there is a bit of a language barrier... (not going any farther with this).
Half the time it isn't even the wake jumpers that are the problem. I'm in a 19' boat (full of people) doing a straight line at 30mph on the right side of a 100 to 200 yd wide waterway. I've been holding this course for the last 5 minutes that I've been visible to the couchers. So what do they do? Oh, lets zoom at 60mph and then suddenly veer over and pull a 360 50 yds in front of a boat (me). I can't count the number of times I've had to cut the throttle and throw my passengers to the floor so I don't kill a coucher because of his own stupidity. Then, when they see/hear me cussing them out for how STUPID they are, I get a puzzled look or a shrug and they just ride away, probably to do it again within the next five minutes because they didn't learn anything from the first time they were almost killed.
Heck, just the other day I saw a youtube video of coucher stupidity (and to the couchers here, no offense - all idiots are couchers, but not all couchers are idiots). How is it possible people are this stupid (start watching the video at the 6:30 mark))?
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- Location
- Atlanta, GA
lol. statistics show you are more likely to get struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist.
- Location
- Cadilac, mi
aint tru, ders terrerizers everwhey man......
- Location
- Bakersfield
Seriously.... She was probably texting or something
chriselmore_1
high on resin
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- san jose ca
I don't like TV! Ban!
chriselmore_1
high on resin
- Location
- san jose ca
I also don't like girls with flat butts! Ban!
I think Matt is on to something...
I think Matt is on to something...
- Location
- Cleveland Ohio
There must be yacht owning multi-billionaires that don't want jetskis on a lake near the giant mansions and yachts.... So they paid FOX to air an article about them....in hopes of banning them.
Next they'll create another fake 'environmental' group (remember blue water group anyone?? ...funded by muliti-millionaires) to try add heat to ban them and blame it on 'liberal hippies'.
Next they'll create another fake 'environmental' group (remember blue water group anyone?? ...funded by muliti-millionaires) to try add heat to ban them and blame it on 'liberal hippies'.
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- Location
- NH
Basically what I was thinking. Licensing weens out such a small population of idiots its virtually pointless. I make that statement in relation to jet skis. There are far fewer rules and traffic laws than cars. I mean I dont think it is a bad idea and we allready have mandatory licensing in NH. Even if it only takes One moron off the water it is worth while in my opion. However licensing is in no way a end all solution to death/injuries from beimg on a jet ski.
This is a perfect example of how our country population thinks. No one is reponsable for anything anymore. Take some responsability people. If someone that doesnt know a throttle lever to a gas cap hops on a jet ski that does 70mph and crashes its all of a sudden the jet skis fault??? If I jump out a plane and dont know how to use a parachute who is foing to blame the parachute when i go splat. It so stupid. Either have the inteligence to do some reaearch before you try something new or just dont do it.
One last thing...doesnt the coast guard limit all jets skis to 70mph? Fox news needs to do some research themselves. I wonder how many other things we are being told by the media are just made up to sound more exciting. http://www.greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19314
I don't think that was the point at all. Nobody (not even that Fox article) is claiming it's the jetski's fault. The point being made is that jetskis are so powerful, fast, and deceptively to use that it's very easy to get yourself (and others) into trouble. Licensing is supposed to help that a bit through education.
- Location
- NH
I mean saying the jet ski is too powerfull is blaming the jet ski right there. So if the jetskis were less powerfull there wouldn't be any accidents? Whats powerfull to some isn't to others. There power is within federal regulations. My point is to say its the people not the jet skis and licensing is only going to be a band-aid on a problem that can't be fixed.