chriselmore_1
high on resin
- Location
- san jose ca
yea it's an advent 4 curves and a waaaay stronger spark. Awesome ignitions..... When they work
Other JSS Ebox rebuild....pics
- Thread starter MADMAT
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- Location
- Cleveland Ohio
Matt has had excellent luck with JSS.
My JSS coil worked great for 1 month...then it hit the salt and died immediately.
Monkey, I doubt your e-box is the issue...kawi eboxes are pretty bulletproof.... It may be your coil though. I would buy a new oem coil and install that. I haven't had anything else go in a Kawi Ebox in 13 years.
My JSS coil worked great for 1 month...then it hit the salt and died immediately.
Monkey, I doubt your e-box is the issue...kawi eboxes are pretty bulletproof.... It may be your coil though. I would buy a new oem coil and install that. I haven't had anything else go in a Kawi Ebox in 13 years.
D-Roc
I forgot!
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- Dirty River Rider
- Location
- NORFOLK,VA
alot of the wavejunkies have had bad luck with jss coils in the past as well. Not saying all are bad but we prefer new oem or nothing at all. lots of arching on the wires no matter how much di electric grease you use.
I have never heard of dielectric grease in plug caps before, I will have to do that. Are the bullet connectors really superior to the oem weatherpacks for the start/stop connectors? How is his start/stop service? I have one that is acting up, am I better buying a used one, or sending one to him? I already tried cleaning the contact with short sucess.
D-Roc
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- Dirty River Rider
i just bought a new one from yamaha for my start stop. new is nice and my last one that died was from like 1994 or something. di electric grease does not conduct electricity. surrounding the area that does conduct with something that does not will allow the power to transfere and not jump. My dirty river is fresh water but has enough conductive minerals to give you the msd tl finger tingle. i had an old lawn mower that i fired up and i could hear it missing and ticking from the coil. i pulled the cap and grabbed my tube of Tune up Grease and made it run perfect in 30 seconds. haha, true story.
D-Roc
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- Dirty River Rider
so DJ, did you use di-electric grease or did you miss that step before hitting the saltwater. It is easy to find fault with the part you install when you install it wrong.
Dustin Mustangs
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- Location
- Holland, MI
Everyone keeps dwelling on this installation 'error' like it justifies the failure. If I am not mistaken, these stories all end with an oem coil installed by the same person (in the same way) working just fine. Coincidence?
Ya, Thats the Advent Ignition
D-Roc
I forgot!
- Location
- Dirty River Rider
no not coincidence, but if the jss coil was not installed and prepped for surf and it fails then where is the fault? the oem coils can fail too if not prepped for saltwater. the oem coils and wires have resistors in the caps and the msd does not. the msd will have more chance at jumping the current than the oem resistor caps.
- Location
- sunbury ,ohio
Matt started as a thread giving props to a guy that puts out QUALITY work ,Reliable products ,excellent business practices ,and cares about what he ships to you Anyways ,,, I been running JSS ebox and coil for 4 years now.. 50% salt 50% fresh .... Flawlessly ,.. I like how he takes OEM tech and tweeks it one notch higher to make it user friendly and more reliable , Props to JSS !!! BTW OEM has an allowable % of in service failures that they warranty daily and Im sure Johns is much smaller % of his output production . On another note : Dielectric grease never hurt anything and is only another big insurance against the negative effects of crosion and electrical leakage with primary or seccondary ignition or controll wires ....use it LIBERALLY ,If you unsure weather to use it or not,,, USE IT !
cattledog
EH TEAM RACING
- Location
- toronto canada
well said , i even put dielectic grease in my whiskey before i go out in the cold water in daytona i am sorry mat if the thread went in a different direction everybody is a master mechanic on this site lets have some fun with our skis , i fix ac and heating units that after one week have electical issues,
Hey no worries here Mario.....talk it up in here....I ain't sayin the guy is perfect...just a nice guy and his kid doin some ebox work...
FWIW if I am given the choice I always demand OEM parts.....but he did talk me in to a AM pulse coil once (he said he was out of OE and he had zero issues with AM)...but that stator is still on the shelf so I have never even tested it....
FWIW if I am given the choice I always demand OEM parts.....but he did talk me in to a AM pulse coil once (he said he was out of OE and he had zero issues with AM)...but that stator is still on the shelf so I have never even tested it....
masterblaster
X-H2
this is what I say,Why take the chance on a jss coil when a ton fail and they cost the same as a new oem,that work EVERY time for yrs with no dielectric grease . We had half a dozen and 4 failed we bought at the same time,they all shorted out in salt in diff skis from day one. Coincidence.....I dont think so. I still have 3 of them in a junk box here,wonder why that is?
grease in the msd boot caps eventually causes them to get slick and slide of the plug,and it does nothing to help the short if the coil is failing badly
D-Roc
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- Dirty River Rider
because he uses an oem coil and installs better wires without resistor caps to give you a good strong spark. If you can't use di electric grease or refuse to then stick to your oem coil. People that know how to do it, will keep using them without problems. the others that can't make them work will say his work is no good, his wires must be crap and the msd plug caps are useless. Its sad. send me your "junk" jss coils please.
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- Rentz, GA
I use JSS coils in surf with no dielectric grease at all and have not had any issues whatsoever.
Perhaps he ran across a bad batch of material on the way to what he is using now? Did he use short msd boots versus long boots?
Perhaps he ran across a bad batch of material on the way to what he is using now? Did he use short msd boots versus long boots?
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D-Roc
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- Dirty River Rider
i had long boots on mine from him and no problems. if the spark is jumping i would want to figure out where it is jumping. if not from the plug/cap then where? is there water in the e-box? It seems to me like he bench tests his work, at least he did mine. i got my coil from him about 4 years ago at least and it is still running and no issues in saltwater at daytona. i was paranoid of saltwater and a newbie to it so i really prepped my ski for the salt.
D-Roc
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- Dirty River Rider
i have no doubt that some people indeed have way more issues with their electrical system than just a coil. putting the oem resistor cap/coil puts the bandaid back on.
- Location
- Cleveland Ohio
ALWAYS! Even in fresh water....
This was years and years ago in my sxi pro...the wires were arc-ing....not sure why. I put an oem coil on and it worked fine. I see alot of saltwater guys are using him now, so maybe it was just a bad piece of wire. I'm sure the issue has been corrected. Probably shouldn't have mentioned it....I didn't try to return it or send it back, so my fault on that part!
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