Custom/Hybrid Melmack's very unique 300sx build

Melmack

Melmack

(Timothy)
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Thank you RAGS for finding this.

I wonder if I had any influence on this? :shrug: Who cares, that engine is exactly what I have been working on. Hopefully, these guys are going to get this thing going. I just hope the price is reasonable. The engine on that site looks basically like a twin version of an Axiro go cart engine. From what I understand, Woelfle is the parent company or maker of the Axiro and the Parajet engines. The Axiro is over $5500 as a single with pull start and the Parajets are something like $8500. So I imagine this twin rotor engine is not for the average rider. Hope I'm wrong.

If Rick Roy is involved, he tailors to the high end of the market. That's not the direction I wanted to take this. I was hoping for something we could all go buy at the local powersports shop in the price range of 10-12k for a working ski. or a conversion for less than 5k. Hopefully I'm wrong here but that engine will probably cost somewhere in the 10 - 20k range by itself.

Rick is the father of freeride if you ask me, his products are amazing. I'm glad hes involved and hopefully this Wasserjet will take off. Hopefully they will offer an affordable product to the masses instead of an expensive high end product that few of us can afford. Time will tell.

At any rate, this is exciting. Keep the updates coming. I'll look into this more and try to get some pricing and availability info.
 
Melmack

Melmack

(Timothy)
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New Braunfels, TX
Sory guys. I've been soooooo busy. Glad a few of you still seem interested in my project/idea. I have lots going on in my personal life but I will get back to this. My little 300 still runs strong and is waiting for a transplant or upgrade or two. I'm still dreaming of the rotary. I was logging in to check on the Wasserjet. Their website seems to say the same thing as always. There is a new develupment that may eventually work out. A major rotary patent holder is working with a Chinese company to build their motors. So eventually they will be cloned and be sold at Harbor freight tools for $199.99(Kidding!) LOL. Not big on china and all but isn't that who makes the Rickter hulls? Time will tell. Still looking for a used Parajet or Axiro cart engine. Please let me know if you find one. As for LSFR, I haven't even looked to see when LSFR is this year. Hopefully I can take off a few days to show up this year. LSFR is the best of times! Last time I passed out half in the hot tub half on the deck. Good stuff! Hope to see many of you there.
 
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wanderer1

wanderer1

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And realize that the same attitude was once held towards production of electronics and cars in Japan.[/QUOTE]

And that attitude is still held buy some,America does it best. You likin the RR life?
 
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Scraggly

Scraggly

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There are many things the Japanese do better then us. That doesn't make me un-American. I know quality when I see it. It's my job.
 
Scraggly

Scraggly

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And just so you don't get the wrong idea. I work for a company that produces 100% USA made parts for Japanese company's. you know the little guys. Toyota, Nissan etc...
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

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Guess I gotta explain myself here after the flame. I was refering to an attitude in this country. I pesonally look for American products first when making a purchase, my living room for example, foreign tv-2 laptops-ps3 and 2 polish vases. The rest is American,doesnt make me better than anyone, just wish as a whole we would have a different attitude about products. We could go on and on about it but its just an opinion and this is a derail for sure. And just to see who's is bigger (don't really matter cuz we all just work for them) yeah I've heard of those auto makers and never owned one ( I drive a Ford and a Jeep, kinda old fashion I know), but the company I work for could buy them if they wanted. Glad y'all are employed.
 
Melmack

Melmack

(Timothy)
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New Braunfels, TX
Its not a matter of made in USA. This boat, if I produced them would be mostly made and completely assembled in USA and Texas(Yes, those are different places). It's basic economics. The UAV companies and labor prices here make it way to expensive to build a quality rotary here in the US for an affordable price to the masses. The only way this would work and not become the next Laserjet or Octane would be to mass produce 200+ skis to the public each year for under $10K and offer a special high performance version to the more advanced riders. This model of affordable entry level skis worked well for Kawasaki for a long time. It was the EPA, not supply and demand that killed the stand up.
With a clean and affordable Chinese rotary motor, the motor price would drop significantly. Price of the basic drive line parts is the only thing keeping this on the shelf for me. If I where to do this, I would need to get the engine price way down from where it is right now. A prototype motor is going to cost me 10K for just a block and non waterproof ignition right now. And that's just a single rotor version.
As much as I would hate getting motors from China, it may be the only option at first. The quality difference is getting to be minimal considering the price difference. Once the Chinese start cloning rotaries, there will be competition and eventually more than one market for this engine. Right now the only market is the UAVs and paraglider market. Aviation motors are not exactly mass production items. Jet skis of all sizes could work well with rotaries, adding thousands of units per year. UK and US companies might then be persuaded to mass produce these Aircraft quality engines in a less quality demanding marine version. My hope would be to get the $10K genuine us/europe made rotary cost down to well under 5k. The Chinese cloning might just be what we need.
 
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Scraggly

Scraggly

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All I was trying to get at is these Japanese company's are employing Americans and producing American made parts here in the states. Sorry if it wasn't clear. Beer.
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

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Really off topic here but, in short we have excelled at everyting from autos, firearms, electronics,propulsion etc to steel and metal manufacture. What country do you guys live in. This goes deeper than a few sentences or a post. And pre ww2 japan was nothing compared to post ww2 after we taught them how we do things. America has always been full of others from different backgrounds and ways of thinking that have come together to make the best. Working for your pay and then sending it over seas is what creates a deficit,we all know that. As far as economics, we have become a society that likes our wages, but begrudges other Americans their wages buy supporting said companies. Really it is pretty hard to name a product designed here (maybe not produced,though we could) that has a better somewhere else. You guys do want you want and I'll do what I want,getting on me for a beleif in America being the best is kinda silly. I guess I'll stick with my substandard Klipsh speakers (USA) Carver (USA), Drexel furniture (bedroom set is 100 years old) my Colts,SnapOn,Kennedy,Brown&Sharpe, etc. Anyone used a Bridgeport or Cadillac lathe lately. It is important to me, might not be to others, but it is to me. Not sayng it makes me better, just what I believe in and wish others did too.
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

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Really off topic here but, in short we have excelled at everyting from autos, firearms, electronics,propulsion etc to steel and metal manufacture. What country do you guys live in. This goes deeper than a few sentences or a post. And pre ww2 japan was nothing compared to post ww2 after we taught them how we do things. America has always been full of others from different backgrounds and ways of thinking that have come together to make the best. Working for your pay and then sending it over seas is what creates a deficit,we all know that. As far as economics, we have become a society that likes our wages, but begrudges other Americans their wages buy supporting said companies. Really it is pretty hard to name a product designed here (maybe not produced,though we could) that has a better somewhere else. You guys do want you want and I'll do what I want,getting on me for a beleif in America being the best is kinda silly. I guess I'll stick with my substandard Klipsh speakers (USA) Carver (USA), Drexel furniture (bedroom set is 100 years old) my Colts,SnapOn,Kennedy,Brown&Sharpe, etc. Anyone used a Bridgeport or Cadillac lathe lately. It is important to me, might not be to others, but it is to me. Not sayng it makes me better, just what I believe in and wish others did too. Matt, I find it sad that you can ask that question and not look around and see the answer
 
Matt_E

Matt_E

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Relax, I was just asking a question :)

There are some products where American is indeed the best quality. I tend to buy with what fits my needs the best, best quality for my money for the intended purpose.
When I was in the market for a minivan a few years ago, that meant a Toyota product (sorry, American minivans, at least at the time, were utter crap). A couple years later I replaced it with a small, somewhat fuel efficient car and that ended up being a Pontiac (well, really a Toyota with a Pontiac badge on it). When I needed a big diesel truck for towing my new Oregon-made trailer, it was a Dodge (because really, what full size foreign Diesel trucks are there???)
For firearms it's always been American made but pretty much only for price. I was happy with Colt, Ruger, and some Remington quality. Other Remmy stuff, not so much. But honestly, prices of foreign firearms products are crazy. I know HK makes nice stuff, but I can't afford it. I guess there is Glock. Never owned one. I did have a Walther pistol for a long time. Best firearm I owned, it was great.
I buy locally made knives and cutlery - just because I like supporting local merchants and they happen to make great stuff!
Now, for food: I always buy as local to me as I possibly can. That has more to do with sustainability and wanting fresh food, though.

I guess my point is this: I buy quality first. If it happens to be American made, great. But I am not going to buy something that's junk only because it's American made.
 
Melmack

Melmack

(Timothy)
Location
New Braunfels, TX
Good points but lets stay on topic please. My point was that the Asian market would help create the lower price point so we could get the motor at a reasonable price to sell them in skis. That's all. I would love to sell 100% american but as long as Moller int. wants to make hand over fist without actually producing anything, and the other guys want to make aviation grade motors only, my company WaterWerks cannot afford to build these skis. So, these companies that would have stood make a decent profit for doing little or nothing, will make no profit instead. And worse, their product will waste away on a drawing board. I don't get it but what can I do?

Anyways, lets keep on topic. Thank you all for your input!:bananalama:


Everyone reading this send me one million dollars and we'll make the WaterWerks rotojet happen. Alright? ...



...Still waiting...



...Wheres all the money damit?!!!
 
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