New 2017 Kawasaki 4 stroke sx-r!

Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

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Eliminator55 said:
You've hit the nail on the head. I have no interest in drag racing, which is apparently even how Kawasaki demoed the new ski, putting it up against the old SX-R. If I wanted to drag race I'd buy a couch.

Also, I can't see this new ski "carving up a buoy course" as Kawasaki continues to claim in their press material, at least not to our satisfaction.

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I saw 2 different times Kanimori and Warner were racing around the exact same course everybody else was. Making left and right turns. It looked to hook up really well and rail the turns. Spoke with Bill Haig who helped me with my Stock Class SXR. He said it handled really well and if you go to turn, it turned. Very predictable. There are only a few racers here on this site. Many only see it as a large ski. One of the reasons it is so big os so it meets USG buoyancy requirements. That is not a light engine. 63mph out of the box is nothing to joke about. Now imagine what it will do when racers start reflashing the ECUs! Because all the info is there from the 15F racing days in the runabout class. There really is nothing new to figure out. All the motor mods have been figured out. So thos 63mph ski with a reflash plus what ever else they can do with them is now a 70+ mph ski and maybe almost for very little extra money.
pondracer95 said:
We should just keep racing the way we have been and ignore the new class structures outside of world finals. we already don't follow major portions of the rulebook so why should we let them force this down our throats
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mbrick

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I'd rather be on something more nimble from 0-45 than something that goes 70mph. Maybe that's just my preference though.

I've fallen off my SJ at top speed and rag-dolled, can't imagine what another 25mph would do. Maybe being larger it's more stable and I would never get tossed side to side and thrown off.
 
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Half flip95

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well o course it handles well... It's got 300lbs sitting below the waterline. Look at how the sit downs handle, they can turn on a dime at speed and smash right through any amount of chop. But look at how the sit downs race, crazy fast, craZy dangerous, and unless you're the guy from Hungary you really aren't making any passes unless someone's boat breaks. Which happens a lot on those turnt up fourstrokes. I for one do not want to be anywhere near a 600lbs ski when I'm riding a 300lbs ski. Going down and getting hit by one of those = death. They belong in their own division based on weight Alone
 
ItsRixter

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Eliminator55 said:
Hopefully Yamaha counters Kawasaki's barge with an attractive offering. I wouldn't hold my breath though. I so wish Kawasaki would have wedged the smaller engine into this new ski and kept the size down.

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they will make a 3 cylinder version using the tr1 motor i bet
 
Eliminator55

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mbrick said:
I'd rather be on something more nimble from 0-45 than something that goes 70mph. Maybe that's just my preference though.

I've fallen off my SJ at top speed and rag-dolled, can't imagine what another 25mph would do. Maybe being larger it's more stable and I would never get tossed side to side and thrown off.
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Does the SuperJet toss you side to side?

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ItsRixter

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All this hate. Come on guys. This is the X. a site for standup riders. Just the simple fact we have a new standup ski by a major manufacture is great news. I get you may want something different but this will push Yamaha to counter with a new SJ. in the big picture I am so happy a new standup is available. Kawi are always big, heavy and fast....lets see what others bring to the table
 
Ochocoronas

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^^^ I would not say it's hate as much as it is disappointment. Are we not suppose to give our true opinion? Kawi built a stand up that will fail as it has one use, going fast. Think of the yacht you would need to throw a wake to jump that thing. Free Riding on that thing has no chance IMO.
 
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pondracer95 said:
well o course it handles well... It's got 300lbs sitting below the waterline. Look at how the sit downs handle, they can turn on a dime at speed and smash right through any amount of chop. But look at how the sit downs race, crazy fast, craZy dangerous, and unless you're the guy from Hungary you really aren't making any passes unless someone's boat breaks. Which happens a lot on those turnt up fourstrokes. I for one do not want to be anywhere near a 600lbs ski when I'm riding a 300lbs ski. Going down and getting hit by one of those = death. They belong in their own division based on weight Alone
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I agree. Separate class for new sxr or gp class only. Jet ski racing has always been called moto x on water. I just don't see that comparison in this ski. Or runabouts in general. It's more like quads or sleds...how could you even get a 600lb ski over a log jump? Guess those will have to get ruled out too.
 
tshank123

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Jhucke said:
Where are you seeing this?
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Big Kahuna said:
I only saw that the Hydro's and Octanes were taken off the homogolation list.
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http://www.ijsba.com/2016/10/06/ijsba-releases-new-2017-ski-stock-rules/

5.2.2 Watercraft competing in the Ski Division must conform to the following criteria:
1) Dry weight must be greater than 102kg (225 lb.) for 550cc classes;
2) Dry weight must be greater than 114kg (260 lb.) in all other classes;
3) Overall watercraft length cannot exceed 246.4cm (97 in.); if the watercraft was in pre-production prior to 2015 then the overall watercraft length cannot exceed 304.8cm (120 in.);
4) Hull width must be between 50.8cm (20 in.) and 76.2cm (30 in.);
5) Overall hull/deck volume must consist of at least 15% flotation material;
6) The ride plate may not extend more than 12.7 cm (5 in.) past the furthest stern point of the upper deck;
7) The pump/nozzle/venturi system may not extend more than 12.7 cm (5 in.) past the furthest stern point of the upper deck;
8) For a watercraft to be eligible in Ski Stock it must have been produced within three years prior to the current calendar year.
 
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tshank123 said:
5.2.2 Watercraft competing in the Ski Division must conform to the following criteria:
8) For a watercraft to be eligible in Ski Stock it must have been produced within three years prior to the current calendar year.
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One has to wonder how much Kawasaki paid the IJSBA, sorry, Scott Frazier, to start killing off the competition. Whatever money was originally paid by Polaris/HSR to the IJSBA for homologation was a complete waste. Now anyone with an Octane or Hydrospace is sitting on a worthless race boat despite both being designed explicitly for racing.

Big Kahuna said:
How do you get a 350 lbs stock sxr over a log jump. timing and the throttle.
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It'll be interesting to see if the log jump remains. Long, 550lb+ skis could destroy logs, let alone take a lot of the challenge away. The sea monster lurking underneath the log might be collecting unemployment next year. She won't be easily snatching riders off of their quarter-ton pole skis.
 
Jhucke

Jhucke

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Wisconsin
How substantial are Pro Watercross national events compared to the IJSBA events? Maybe people will start to migrate towards that if IJSBA insists on ruining things.
 
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