ian, funny you say that cause me and my friend can ride from sky harbor down mcdowell to the 87 and into fountain hills in under 2hrs haha. probably take some extra time with a ski attatched but it can be done! maybe one day if i dont have the gas money haha its hard not to justify driving when i bought a rig to get me to the lake and back on the cheap haha! waste if i dont use it haha.