no not even close, the entire bob gen 1 was pretty much scrapped, it didnt work. if you seen the two you would know, it wasnt hard to see. xfs was same as fs1 except different hood too....lol
Other Of all these new light hulls....
- Thread starter MADMAT
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no not even close, the entire bob gen 1 was pretty much scrapped, it didnt work. if you seen the two you would know, it wasnt hard to see. xfs was same as fs1 except different hood too....lol
Ducky
Back in the game!
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
I cant really even tell the difference between any rickter by just looking at them lol.
my point exactly.... wow just wow
- Location
- Midwest
Can't you put a kawi motor in any Yamaha based hull with the rad dudes conversion plate. I know that they market it for 1100 kawis into blasters mostly but technically an 800 sxr motor would mount up. Would just have to find the right midshaft length.
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- Location
- Midwest
I may be wrong who knows
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- Location
- wi
Anything can be done with some fab work.
Captain PegLeg
GJP
- Location
- Villa Rica, Ga
But why?? The only Kawi motor that has ever impressed me has been black chris's DASA kawi based motor.... and I don't even know if you can give the credit to kawi on that one.
- Location
- Northwest, CT
I'll be running my kawi 970 Dasa in a circus this year. Motor was fully ported by art and built by me. And I had a big bore kawi 850 in my q8 with a 145. Ski was no joke.
Proformance1
Liquid Insanity
- Location
- New York Crew
Ill back that up. Matt you need to ride these skis, they are all based off something. Hell the Brawler is superjet bottom based but with a Kawi intake bubble and is wider than an SXR so who would know how that would ride without trying it? The EMEs are all based off the orig SXR style bottom but they all ride different. tiny changes, especially in the pump intake, etc can affect the ride quite a bit. Ref the write up by Zack on the new Predator intake I think you are looking for a hull that hooks up in the turns, not necessarily a flickable hull, agreed?
- Location
- NYC/Long Island
I highly doubt anyone created their first mold by a large block of foam and then hand shaped both the bottom and top decks. There are all based off of something. It just makes more sense since we are running yamaha motor, electronics, pump etc. to work off a existing ski. Half the battle is done that way and for the sake of convenience, in theory, everything should line up like OEM.
I think the standard practice is to modify a OEM hull by adding rocker, shortening, lowering the hood etc. and then test it. If it rides good .. Great now split the decks and splash a mold of it. For a small business owner/sole person to build and R&D a ski from ground up would take a insanely long time and alot of money. From a OEM hull they all evolve. In fact, just about every hull builder i've seen has evolved from something.
The ROK is a SXR bottom for sure. They do take Yamaha drivetrain, but I think only Kawasaki pump.
I think the standard practice is to modify a OEM hull by adding rocker, shortening, lowering the hood etc. and then test it. If it rides good .. Great now split the decks and splash a mold of it. For a small business owner/sole person to build and R&D a ski from ground up would take a insanely long time and alot of money. From a OEM hull they all evolve. In fact, just about every hull builder i've seen has evolved from something.
The ROK is a SXR bottom for sure. They do take Yamaha drivetrain, but I think only Kawasaki pump.
Yea WDK will take either...both Rok and Envy...
I am basically looking for my envy...40lbs lighter (my hull and hood weigh 104lbs)...for a second hull...
I can lay my envy over until my hips are dragging across the water.....literally.....and the pump stays connected. The damn thing amazes me every time I get on it.....but really only shines on 4' and up waves as far as rolls. (It doesn't help that I am lazy as far as roll form so I rely heavily on decent sized waves combined with speed so that I can just stand up and roll! LOL) So I want the same handling with less weight.
I'll keep researching. I wish it was warm so I could go visit the NY crew real quick!
I know I can get used to anything and I loved my stock SJ hulls so it is not a deal breaker...but SXR bottoms really make me smile.
I am basically looking for my envy...40lbs lighter (my hull and hood weigh 104lbs)...for a second hull...
I can lay my envy over until my hips are dragging across the water.....literally.....and the pump stays connected. The damn thing amazes me every time I get on it.....but really only shines on 4' and up waves as far as rolls. (It doesn't help that I am lazy as far as roll form so I rely heavily on decent sized waves combined with speed so that I can just stand up and roll! LOL) So I want the same handling with less weight.
I'll keep researching. I wish it was warm so I could go visit the NY crew real quick!
I know I can get used to anything and I loved my stock SJ hulls so it is not a deal breaker...but SXR bottoms really make me smile.
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
All of the fiberglass hulls are available in gelcoat. Once you go carbon, most dont offer gel
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Brotastic
- Location
- Arlington TX
I'm sure what you want is out there, or at least there is something out there that you will enjoy.
But in my experience the lighter the hull the more it wants to skate on the water instead of digging in. The weight of your ski may very well give it the handling that you enjoy.
My chan has a SXR based bottom deck, but because of how short it is, it doesn't lay over like a SXR, (probably because its light as well.)
But I don't think you're looking for something that light or short.
get a rok then, prices are real good now and a very fun ski! i wanted to buy addicts when he moved on just couldnt at the time.
- Location
- Cleveland Ohio
Voges, for the kind of riding you are doing and what you are looking for, I would go for a ROK or a Brawler. I've ridden about 25 hulls at this point. The rock is way lighter, way smaller and way snappier than our hulls, but can still carve if you want it to. The brawler is even smaller and lighter, but gets a little difficult to carve (more of a freestyler), however, I haven't ridden it with the longer plate. Nothing else is going to do the kind of slashing you want, at the speeds you like to go, that I've ridden, except maybe a Rickter or a Matrix.