Pimp My Superjet - MSRP Build

Mobile Chernobyl

Mobile Chernobyl

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1 Mile High in Colorado
Picked up a 1999 Superjet this weekend and was pretty surprised at how stock it was - in a good way! Very little "hullestation" if any - just some hood paint peeling!

It was perfect timing too because I almost bought a leftover given the current drought of standups in the Denver area.

So it got me thinking - what if I built up a pimp AF superjet but spent no more than I would have out-the-door at the dealer (which for me was around $8,700 USD)?

Here's my build list so far, most of it is purchased but critique away if you have any good ideas!
--Current Build total is $8,100 with everything listed below - so some extra left in there for paint/graphics down the road.
--I tried to find a B Pipe but I don't like to compete and bid up overpriced used stuff so I'm just gonna stand in line until Factory Pipe gets another production run done (Mid-June 2020? 2021?) and buy a brand new one & sell the current pipe.

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Quinc

Quinc

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Get an OCD coil and zeeltronics instead. Between the Zeel and Red pipe you should be able to make a lot more power over a bpipe and still have great bottom end.
 
mikidymac

mikidymac

Location
California
One thing to keep in mind is what you want do do with the ski but it's a fun project.

If you want to run buoys and/or race the 1999 can't compete with the 2008+ hull.
 
Mobile Chernobyl

Mobile Chernobyl

Location
1 Mile High in Colorado
Thanks @Sanoman I've started more PWC projects then I've finished - hoping to even things out with this one! My 1995 superjet was held together with hopes and dreams - not a great project candidate like this one.

Great point @mikidymac - I am after a more powerful and playful version of the superjet - not a pure bouy racer, not a pure flatwater flipper, not a surf smasher, just a pimped out superjet that's slightly better all around. We're pretty far from the ocean here in Colorado and the waves rarely get above 4-5ft from boats but we do have awesome scenic rivers, canyons and plenty of lakes and reservoirs to explore - So I'm basically just trying to take what I like about the superjet and add a little extra.

With the Zeeltronics - I'm looking into it. But back to what Mikidymac said - what I'm also after is reliability and simplicity. If the Zeeltronics is pretty reliable I can see myself going down that rabbit hole as I love the ignition map switch on my dirtbike haha.

@Quinc From what I've gathered on a Zeeltronics conversion you need the following:
  • 760 flywheel - which @speedysprocket offers a lightening service for
  • 760 stator
  • 760 flywheel cover
  • Zeeltronics CDI programmed for the superjet
  • Some magic wiring behind the cover
  • Possibly a 760 e-box rear shell portion to hold the Zeel CDI?
Am I missing anything? Flywheel and Cover will be $200 or less - what is the all in price here? And I know jetskisolutions advertises the e-box conversion but does anyone else offer a simple "I ship you my e-box, you ship me back a zeeltronics converted e-box" type service? I'm all for tinkering but that is one thing I don't want to do (mess with and possibly reduce the reliability of the ignition electronics) - I'd rather have someone do it that has done tons of them.

Thanks all
 
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speedysprocket

speedysprocket

Alex
Location
Chesapeake, VA
Mobile Chernobyl said:
Thanks @Sanoman I've started more PWC projects then I've finished - hoping to even things out with this one! My 1995 superjet was held together with hopes and dreams - not a great project candidate like this one.

Great point @mikidymac - I am after a more powerful and playful version of the superjet - not a pure bouy racer, not a pure flatwater flipper, not a surf smasher, just a pimped out superjet that's slightly better all around. We're pretty far from the ocean here in Colorado and the waves rarely get above 4-5ft from boats but we do have awesome scenic rivers, canyons and plenty of lakes and reservoirs to explore - So I'm basically just trying to take what I like about the superjet and add a little extra.

With the Zeeltronics - I'm looking into it. But back to what Mikidymac said - what I'm also after is reliability and simplicity. If the Zeeltronics is pretty reliable I can see myself going down that rabbit hole as I love the ignition map switch on my dirtbike haha.

@Quinc From what I've gathered on a Zeeltronics converison you need the following:
  • 760 flywheel - which @speedysprocket offers a lightening service for
  • 760 stator
  • 760 flywheel cover
  • Zeeltronics CDI programmed for the superjet
  • Some magic wiring behind the cover
  • Possibly a 760 e-box rear shell portion to hold the Zeel CDI?
Am I missing anything? Flywheel and Cover will be $200 or less - what is the all in price here? And I know jetskisolutions advertises the e-box conversion but does anyone else offer a simple "I ship you my e-box, you ship me back a zeeltronics converted e-box" type service? I'm all for tinkering but that is one thing I don't want to do - I'd rather have someone do it that has done tons of them.

Thanks all
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Yes, I can lighten your flywheel or sell you one off the shelf if you need it.
 
Mobile Chernobyl

Mobile Chernobyl

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So the Zeeltronics setup looks awesome - did enough research on it to be dangerous. I'm going to shelf that for "stage 2" though. I'll probably get a JM yamasaki coil and mate that with my enhancement device and call it a day for stage 1 - it will give me a reason to crack open and clean the e-box too. I think down the road I will just get the Zeel from JM and do as much of the conversion myself as possible. In reading over the PDCI-11 documentation it looks pretty fun to dork around with actually.

My goal is not to do too much work to this hull - it's very sano and I kinda like that for now. Footholds will probably go in once I learn to respect the JM 718 motor. When it comes to composite work I've done enough work on old hulls to learn that I'd rather buy new, used or even make one myself from scratch. I hate sanding old FRP and fiberglass and probably took a few years off my life with my 550sx project (Which did end up going to a friend back in Pennsylvania that wants to finish it haha).
 
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Roseand

Roseand

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Mobile Chernobyl said:
So the Zeeltronics setup looks awesome - did enough research on it to be dangerous. I'm going to shelf that for "stage 2" though. I'll probably get a JM yamasaki coil and mate that with my enhancement device and call it a day for stage 1 - it will give me a reason to crack open and clean the e-box too. I think down the road I will just get the Zeel from JM and do as much of the conversion myself as possible. In reading over the PDCI-11 documentation it looks pretty fun to dork around with actually.

My goal is not to do too much work to this hull - it's very sano and I kinda like that for now. Footholds will probably go in once I learn to respect the JM 718 motor. When it comes to composite work I've done enough work on old hulls to learn that I'd rather buy new, used or even make one myself from scratch. I hate sanding old FRP and fiberglass and probably took a few years off my life with my 550sx project (Which did end up going to a friend back in Pennsylvania that wants to finish it haha).
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Buy a complete 760 electronics set. Ebox, stator, flywheel etc. Can find for around 200-300$. Then all you have to do is plug in the zeel and install flywheel and cover. Plus the 760 coil is an upgrade too. Much easier than converting current electronics and you can sell your setup to get some cash back.
 
mikidymac

mikidymac

Location
California
If it was me I would hold off on the Enhancer if you are even remotely considering a Zeel. 50% of people here say the Enhancer is unreliable and makes little difference and the other 50% say it is great. For me at the moment doing about the same thing as you I am just going to remove the stock rev limiter from the stock CDI for free at the moment then go from there.
 
Quinc

Quinc

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California
mikidymac said:
For me at the moment doing about the same thing as you I am just going to remove the stock rev limiter from the stock CDI for free at the moment then go from there.
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If running a bpipe you will stay in the 6700-6900rpm range and the CDI rev limit is around 7200. Why bother with removing it?
 
mikidymac

mikidymac

Location
California
Quinc said:
If running a bpipe you will stay in the 6700-6900rpm range and the CDI rev limit is around 7200. Why bother with removing it?
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I guess because it is easy and I hear everyone here say that you need to increase the rev limiter. Maybe you don't actually need to but that is, "as they say".
 
Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

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Tuscaloosa, AL
Quinc said:
That's because you reinstalled your old pinched pump seal and had cavitation. :p
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This was a brand new Superjet!!!!!!!!! Not old pinched pump seal!!!!!!!!!!!! Not saying I have not had an old used pump seal that might have had some cavitation in them.......
 
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