Power Factor Dry Pipe questions
- Thread starter jetski9010
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- s florida
well, if you e-mail him to get an exhaust kit, them maybe I'll give you some set up advise. I somewhat understand his reasoning behing his actions since every set up is different and this pipe is not very forgivefull .
- Location
- Lake Havasu City, AZ USA
Still bumping for Mark Baxter info.... 
People wanna know about this pipe! The more info, the more people will want it.... COME ON!!!
Does anybody know if Mark Baxter will be at the World Finals?
How do i contact him?
People wanna know about this pipe! The more info, the more people will want it.... COME ON!!!
Does anybody know if Mark Baxter will be at the World Finals?
How do i contact him?
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- s florida
Still bumping for Mark Baxter info....
People wanna know about this pipe! The more info, the more people will want it.... COME ON!!!
Does anybody know if Mark Baxter will be at the World Finals?
How do i contact him?
He will be at WF with a few pipes for sale. I'm sure he will answer all your questions there for you.
- Location
- Lake Orion, Michigan
Nice work! That is sweet.
- Location
- Lake Havasu City, AZ USA
Some how I missed this... Thanks Roo!
Copied and pasted this from another thread that was started. This is from the designer of the pipe:
I want to give everyone on this forum an insight to PFP and the PowerFactor SJ Freestyle Exhaust system.
This exhaust system is designed to be used on superstock engine setup’s (800, 900, 1000, 1100). Over the last several years, many engine builders have been designing bigger freestyle engines, IE Stroke, Bore, Exhaust Valves, and Etc. The only piece that remains the same is the “B” pipe. Don’t get me wrong, the “B” pipe is a great all around pipe for stock and slightly modified engines, but it was never designed for maximum HP or Torque. It was originally designed to make a 20 hp increase on a stock Yamaha 701 SJ. On superstock engines the “B” pipe signs off quick. I’m not going into details, I will explain it in simple terms. It is about the powerband. Todays top freestyle riders are using the midrange to launch. Once you get into the midrange and rev out…..Hold on. It may take a little adjustment to get use to riding this powerband.
Design: The perfect pipe would be a straight pipe if you could fit into a ski. The more bends and the tighter the bends, the more HP you lose. There is no current dry pipe you can use that allows you to run exhaust valves because they go up and around the engine. The PFP pipe allows easy access to all engine parts and has minimal bends.
Fuel Tank: You can use a 2 gallon fuel tank on the Yamaha SJ. This allows for 30-40 minutes of riding time. If you are making a lot of HP, any rider will tell you after a 30 minute session, you need a break. It takes 30 seconds to refuel. You kinda get use to it. It is also about the weight. Three to four gallons of fuel is a lot of weight.
Engine Tuning: Anytime you make more HP, you have to make the appropriate adjustments, IE Ignition Timing, Fuel, possible Impeller changes, ETC. Every superstock is different according to the engine builder. Remember everything has to be right from the time the air enters the flame arrestors to the time the exhaust exits the rear of the ski.
Production: PFP exhaust, are manufactured at Factory Pipe. We have never had a failure after running these exhaust systems for 3 years
Cost: No they are not the cheapest pipe. Anybody in the production business will tell you it’s about qty. PFP is not producing 1000 at a time. We manufacture 50 at a time.
Dyno: I would not even think about dynoing a “B” pipe on a superstock engine. Been there……done that….10 years ago. The dyno is a great place to develop a new tune spec for a pipe, but you cannot duplicate the way it runs on the water (off idle and mid range). You have to adjust the tune spec for the powerband you want “on the water” Bottomline. Let the ride speak for itself.
I did not write this to start any arguments. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions. I am only speaking from my own experience.
I want to thank every aftermarket company (X-metal, EME, Waterdawg, and all others) for contributing to future of freestyle and freeride. The sport is moving in the right direction.
PowerFactorProducts.com website is coming soon.
Mark
When defying gravity…………..Horsepower to weight ratio
Copied and pasted this from another thread that was started. This is from the designer of the pipe:
I want to give everyone on this forum an insight to PFP and the PowerFactor SJ Freestyle Exhaust system.
This exhaust system is designed to be used on superstock engine setup’s (800, 900, 1000, 1100). Over the last several years, many engine builders have been designing bigger freestyle engines, IE Stroke, Bore, Exhaust Valves, and Etc. The only piece that remains the same is the “B” pipe. Don’t get me wrong, the “B” pipe is a great all around pipe for stock and slightly modified engines, but it was never designed for maximum HP or Torque. It was originally designed to make a 20 hp increase on a stock Yamaha 701 SJ. On superstock engines the “B” pipe signs off quick. I’m not going into details, I will explain it in simple terms. It is about the powerband. Todays top freestyle riders are using the midrange to launch. Once you get into the midrange and rev out…..Hold on. It may take a little adjustment to get use to riding this powerband.
Design: The perfect pipe would be a straight pipe if you could fit into a ski. The more bends and the tighter the bends, the more HP you lose. There is no current dry pipe you can use that allows you to run exhaust valves because they go up and around the engine. The PFP pipe allows easy access to all engine parts and has minimal bends.
Fuel Tank: You can use a 2 gallon fuel tank on the Yamaha SJ. This allows for 30-40 minutes of riding time. If you are making a lot of HP, any rider will tell you after a 30 minute session, you need a break. It takes 30 seconds to refuel. You kinda get use to it. It is also about the weight. Three to four gallons of fuel is a lot of weight.
Engine Tuning: Anytime you make more HP, you have to make the appropriate adjustments, IE Ignition Timing, Fuel, possible Impeller changes, ETC. Every superstock is different according to the engine builder. Remember everything has to be right from the time the air enters the flame arrestors to the time the exhaust exits the rear of the ski.
Production: PFP exhaust, are manufactured at Factory Pipe. We have never had a failure after running these exhaust systems for 3 years
Cost: No they are not the cheapest pipe. Anybody in the production business will tell you it’s about qty. PFP is not producing 1000 at a time. We manufacture 50 at a time.
Dyno: I would not even think about dynoing a “B” pipe on a superstock engine. Been there……done that….10 years ago. The dyno is a great place to develop a new tune spec for a pipe, but you cannot duplicate the way it runs on the water (off idle and mid range). You have to adjust the tune spec for the powerband you want “on the water” Bottomline. Let the ride speak for itself.
I did not write this to start any arguments. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions. I am only speaking from my own experience.
I want to thank every aftermarket company (X-metal, EME, Waterdawg, and all others) for contributing to future of freestyle and freeride. The sport is moving in the right direction.
PowerFactorProducts.com website is coming soon.
Mark
When defying gravity…………..Horsepower to weight ratio
Anyone have pics of where they mounted their battery (except back corner) with the powerfactor box. I know most put it in the back corner, but my engine sits back 2" father than everyones so there is no room.
I may have to put it in front of the pipe and get longer cables. Other options may be next to the powerfactor box laying down. I currently am running a DEKA EXT12 with an MSD enhancer.
I may have to put it in front of the pipe and get longer cables. Other options may be next to the powerfactor box laying down. I currently am running a DEKA EXT12 with an MSD enhancer.
- Location
- Braapp factory
we cut a hole in bulkhead behind elec box and glassed an enclosure in for battery. then turfed over it - the elec box holds the battery in place. the weight of the battery is then right in the middle of the ski. As we run total loss we made a charging point for easy plugging in of the charger.
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- Braapp factory
hear what you are saying, but how often does the battery need to be pulled and how long does it take to pull motor ? And the weight is in the middle
True. I also was going to mount a fire extig toehold in that location.