Rocker question

[WB1994]

If I can put my lips to the plug and blow air into the hull then that means the plug is leaking. I then replaced them with versiplugs and no more leaking.

 

[WB1994]

Dont take it personally Dave , I know thats hard for you at times. If people arent giving reviews of your products that are something like "thats the best game changing part ive ever seen" , you amediately go on the defensive attack. The problem is the 701 plugs are plastic/rubber compound and if the surface you screw it to is not perfectly flat or if its contoured then it distorts the 701 plug and it will leak. The versiplugs will never have this happen cause they are macined perfect and screw into stock mounts ..... like I said , try not to take it so personally. Its just my opinion and experience I had. How you handle my opinion is your problem.

 

[uncontrolled515]

I have the rear cut with carters rear tails, rode it quite a bit, I still have as much stock foam with mine as possible. The front is stock I think its good all the way around. good top end pulls with little effort keeping it smooth, steering is great cuts turns and rolls great through the surf. I don't have water issues versi plugs keep it dry but I have the stock syphon and a single bilge just incase never know, and stock foam, as much as I could keep. zero complaints I typically ride flat, river, and ocean works good all the way around. As for the NASA rockered ski it looked good at wavedaze

 

[uncontrolled515]

Still getting used to the ski but here is what I did:
Stock Front end
CarterB tail chop

Biggest thing that you have to do is make the ride plate to you personally for how and where you ride. Talked to CarterB for a little at wavedaze about it and pretty much that is what it comes down to.

I also don't ride nose up much with the foam and no water. Think that is just a individual issue.

 

[KTM434]

Tail mods on a Blaster for surfriding is a must IMO. Rockered nose adds to it's abilities. Judging a skis handling in a no wake zone seems a bit ridiculous and that guy in the pic is not riding he is trolling... I have a hard time balancing while idling a standup ski along a no wake zone, does that mean the ski is unstable? Just gotta carry more speed. People ride in different conditions and have different riding styles, skill levels, and have different weights and riding positions which will affect a hulls handling abilities therefore different people will want different setups. 3 years ago when I rode blasters I did a similar build to Zimmy's ski. -3.5 in the back and rockered nose but the front rocker profile probably wasn't as functional as his. Made the ski way more fun and capable. I've been off blasters for a few years now and haven't typically found them very enjoyable. Rode one over the weekend since I have no ski currently and it was a blast! Front and rear CarterB mods and just a 701. Perfectly balanced setup with no drawbacks and nothing that's unpredictable. It actually has my brain on blasters again. There's a Viper in FL and I was hoping to try that also but he didn't come over to Daytona with his crew. I made a quick video clip from trying out this Blaster. Didn't feel nose high to me

 

[CarterB]

These mods to blasters are they same as standups. Not everyone can ride a tiny flatwater freestyle hull and it gets even harder in surf....but really experienced riders or guys looking to get the most out of consistently small surf will be able to make a flatwater ski work great in the surf etx. Same goes for motor selection....if you only have a budget based motor, a small ski is more fun.....but if you got an arm ripper motor you can make a stock long superjet get boosted to the moon and power out of a lot of conditions like it's nothing. All this is true as well with blasters and the shape the will suit you may not suit others. No one hull or idea is perfect for everyone.

 

[D95turbo]

IMO if you don't want to spend the down time of glassing and still want keep the stock look, buy the 701 industries rocker kit. It installs in 15mins and works very well. As for glassed in rocker kits. I made my first rocker kit and shortened my ski 3.5" in the back and rode like a sport bike on waves. However, it wasn't stable on top end and I only used the ski to jump waves. My second build I decided to buy Carters kit with a splash guard and I have been very pleased with how it works. I'm still undecided if I want to rear rocker the ski. I think its better to straight chop a ski then rocker the rear of the ski. Also, from what I've noticed, if you weight over 200lbs a rear rockered ski's may not be the best choice for riding. They will ride nose high everywhere you go and you might only want to rocker the front.

 

[jetx]

I'm Not sure where this nose high business comes from but I am 220 and my ski doesn't ride nose high at all with the rear Carter b tails and stock front with 701 surf rocker.

I found the chop Made the ski handle a lot more nimble and turns quicker, and just all around a more fun ski. Yeah top end speed isn't as stable but who chops there ski to ride wot?

Really happy with the tail mods. Carterb designed a winner in my books.

 

[Quinc]

If I have learned anything from this thread, I am going to need to put some silicone or 5200 on my 701 surf plugs before installing them.

 

[D95turbo]

I've had no issues with my 701 surf plugs. I do clean them out on a regular basis. I've been running them for almost year. As for the rear chop. I suggest riding one before you chop it.

 

[player1]

You can see by the pic of WB 1998 he has his feet on the ramp. When you shorten your ski, your whole body position has to change. I have seen a lot of people keep their feet in the same spot and ride like that. Foot straps need to go about 3-4 inches forward.

Also, this skis are for riding inverted, and getting deep into the wave. If you just ride fast and do the odd jump, its may not be for you..

 

[docchris]

i out of the first subject here , but about the 701 surf plug , what i can say is : it s a very bad product , i buy them last year , mount them , ride by a flat day for 15 min , no jump at all ,stop on the beach, look at my surf plug to check if they work well , and what ?
no more small ball on them ,how it s possible after 15 min?
of course my selller ( in france) bring me money back and i buy the versiplug , much better quality and no problem at all with them .( even flat water ride or hard surf condition)

 

[WB1994]

If I have learned anything from this thread, I . going to need to put some silicone or 5200 on my 701 surf plugs before installing them.

Its not the sealing against the hull , its the hole the ball seals against can get distorted

 

[Quinc]

Its not the sealing against the hull , its the hole the ball seals against can get distorted

Well shi...

 

[D95turbo]

let me explain a few things. In the beginning on the original set of surf plugs, there were some issues with the ball falling out. Dave has since then redesigned the surf plugs with better fitment and with mourning cap for the guys who want to float in the water and anchor their ski. Also, if you over tighten the surf plugs the plastic will distort. They barely need to be tightened. Last thing i'm not gonna be able to convince you guys that these plugs are best plugs to ride with but I can tell you that issues with the ball falling have been fixed for sometime now. We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[jpweeks173]

So you can't let your ski just chill in the water with these plugs? Maybe a new thread needs to be started for 701 surf plugs...

 

[D95turbo]

They are surf plugs, not chilling plugs!!! I wouldn't just chill in the water with any surf plug as they all leak water but if you want to chill Dave's are the only plug with caps to keep the water out. Here's my latest build for a customer. 20k in a blaster and it will have 701 surf plugs installed.

 

[D95turbo]

You can see by the pic of WB 1998 he has his feet on the ramp. When you shorten your ski, your whole body position has to change. I have seen a lot of people keep their feet in the same spot and ride like that. Foot straps need to go about 3-4 inches forward.

Also, this skis are for riding inverted, and getting deep into the wave. If you just ride fast and do the odd jump, its may not be for you..

I think your right on this one. Foot placement makes all the difference with a rear chopped ski.

 

[Vumad]

once you rocker the front kiss any speed goodbye.

Gomez won the open surf race at Daytona this year against mostly sxr and he was on a rickter with a rocker. He was lapping people. Some of those sxr had 1100 motors.

I know a Superjet and blaster are different but talents riders win on anything.

 

[willcastner]

I bought two sets of 701 surf plugs. Two of them leaked and two did not. I have not installed them yet and I am going to try to see if 701 will exchange the two that leak. I tested them by filling them with water in the sink and the water would work its way past the ball slowly. The tolerances just aren't there on the plastic base. The versiplaug I had before never leaked at all. it was in fact a "chillin" plug. I used to leave my blaster tied to a boat at a sand bar all the time and no water ever made it in. I will be spending the extra money on the versiplugs if I cant get the 701 ones exchanged.