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- detroit MI
anyone ever separate the top and bottom ecks on an x2? how much does it suck? i'm not too picky about the pump tunnel/uner seat area as the new one will be flat decked.
separating an x2
- Thread starter j0hnny
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- segoville TX
http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/modified-x2-build-stripped-the-hull.28358/page-3#post-434443
im pretty sure its going to be pretty much destroyed by the time you get it apart
im pretty sure its going to be pretty much destroyed by the time you get it apart
- Location
- detroit MI
im pretty okay with that. the whole rear tray and pump tunnel i have 0 use for. and the bottom deck is already estroye on this one. hence the experimenting 
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
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- St. Pete, FL
Depends on how you do it. Splitting the nose is easy. Getting the bulk head off the top deck is hard. Splitting the rear bond rail is just about impossible.
If I were to do it again, I would cut the bottom bond rail in the back away from the top bond rail, leaving the top bond rail intact.
If I were to do it again, I would cut the bottom bond rail in the back away from the top bond rail, leaving the top bond rail intact.
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- detroit MI
looking through your thread thats what im thinking. because i may nee parts of the top bond rail.
the bulk head im still having trouble with. because idk how it will mate up with the new bottom deck depending on how i cut it. should be interesting. will pm u as i get going on this vumad.
ultimate goal of this project. superman seat grab. and other tricks i miss from my motocross days.
the bulk head im still having trouble with. because idk how it will mate up with the new bottom deck depending on how i cut it. should be interesting. will pm u as i get going on this vumad.
ultimate goal of this project. superman seat grab. and other tricks i miss from my motocross days.
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- segoville TX
You should cut it as close to the outside as possible leaving as much as you can of the bulkhead
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- detroit MI
okay so leave bulk head attached to top deck as much as possible. will do.
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
Why? What are you doing with the bottom deck? I would leave the bulk head attached to the bottom deck to ensure proper alignment. Even if you are swaping to the 800 pump, this allows you to have the bearing in the right place relative to the engine. The only reason I can see doing this is if you are changing to the Yamaha pump and thus moving the bulk head all together.
No need to PM me, I watch the new posts. I prefer stuff like this to be public so everyone who is interested can benefit from reading it. Unless there is something special you want to keep hush hush. Some of my projects I don't post because people can be very negative. Not so much an issue but seems to be a troll infestation on PWCtoday.
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
If you have 2 X2 to waste, the best way is to cut the top deck away from one ski leaving the bulk head and bottom deck fully intact. Then cut the bottom deck away from the other one keeping the top deck fully intact.
I'm curious to have a better idea of what you are doing. I have a hunch you are going to make this way more complicated than necessary and end up with some serious alignment issues.
I'm curious to have a better idea of what you are doing. I have a hunch you are going to make this way more complicated than necessary and end up with some serious alignment issues.
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- detroit MI
well considering my jeep went from a simple axle swap to a full blown conversion changing every piece other than the shell and seats...... yeah thats a good assumption rofl. im not using an x2 bottom deck. that is where in the issue lies. i want to try something vastly ifferent and actually run a totally different bottom deck with native yami mounts and pump tunnel. i love riding my x2 but jumping it is not what i expected. i want it to jump like some of the aftermarket hulls i rode this weekend. so it needs to be lighter, shorter, and have a vastly different bottom en construction. i originally contemplating polishing the terd and filling it like most do but i like to make life complicated
Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
well considering my jeep went from a simple axle swap to a full blown conversion changing every piece other than the shell and seats...... yeah thats a good assumption rofl. im not using an x2 bottom deck. that is where in the issue lies. i want to try something vastly ifferent and actually run a totally different bottom deck with native yami mounts and pump tunnel. i love riding my x2 but jumping it is not what i expected. i want it to jump like some of the aftermarket hulls i rode this weekend. so it needs to be lighter, shorter, and have a vastly different bottom en construction. i originally contemplating polishing the terd and filling it like most do but i like to make life complicated
If you are going to change everything about it, you are better off buying a Superjet and putting on a conversion hood and just customize the deck.
With that out of the way, I have changed everything about my x2, so I do understand the hobby in a project.
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- detroit MI
i rode a tom21 hood superjet this weekend. it was cool but i prefer the x2 steering/hood setup. hoping if this works i can make a mold of it. i just think the x2 tower steering setup is the best way other than maybe the fixed stear rasta bot setup. idk we will see what happens. the hull i have is trashed so i dont feel bad
experimenting
experimenting
- Location
- detroit MI
so general consensus.... if i build it, will it flip? lol. primarily the way i see it the top deck matters less. if i can get it to have the same weight as a q8, and the lower hull is q8, and it has the hp and the big yami pump. it should flat water similar to a q8? right?
- Location
- Amherst NH
Im going about this same thing myself , just in a different way. The first thing you need to do is take your bottom deck and put a drivetrain in it then set the topdeck on it. Thats everything including pipe and carbs. The X2 uses the longest driveshaft that kawi made. To get it to work your going to find that you need to manipulate the topdeck in more ways than just chopping the back end short because of the shorter driveshaft.
StandupWI
Sinking with the bilge on
- Location
- Milwaukee, WI
Have you read the threads on PWCtoday by phlipcyde?
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=356987&highlight=
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=345769&highlight=
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=247779&highlight=
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=356987&highlight=
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=345769&highlight=
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=247779&highlight=
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- detroit MI
no i havent read those. i will have to o that when i get some time this weekend.
that is pretty much the plan. to first actually split it then see where it all sits. just hoping it all lines up. the bottom deck won't be using a single kawi part. it will be all yami.
that is pretty much the plan. to first actually split it then see where it all sits. just hoping it all lines up. the bottom deck won't be using a single kawi part. it will be all yami.
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- detroit MI
just looked through them real quick.... all that and he still hasn't flippe it??? well this is looking like a good idea at all then.
- Location
- Amherst NH
It wont line up , your going to need to do more than you think. I am also using all yami , no Kawi.
Phlipcyde only changed the pump area to accept a 800 kawi pump. Still pretty much an X2 with front fill. Front fill is useless IMO.
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- detroit MI
im not using an x2 bottom deck at all..... nothing below bon line will be kawi. really the only kawi part of the whole ski will be the hood and front end above bond line and in front of the seat (for the fixed steer parts). essentially doing a fixed steer aftermarket hull but using the x2 top deck instead of a fixed steer hood. make sense? or different than u were originally thinking?
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- Amherst NH
Oh I fully understand what your doing. Its exactly what Im doing but Im going about it a little different. Once you try and sit the kawi X2 topdeck onto the Yami based bottom deck you'll understand what Im talking about.