Ski runs like crap when the tank is full, but it runs better when empty?

I had a similar set of symptoms turn up with my ski over the last 2 months. The issues I had were a cylinder being dropped during low rpm's, turned out to be a coil showing signs of failing. Once I got past that, I still felt what seemed to be like the ski was hitting the rev limiter and carburetion was off. So I pulled the carbs, cleaned and found that water had made its way into the needle and seat area. Cleaned all that out, internal filters were good but did have a tiny bit of debris in them...if you have the stock fuel lines you may want to change them. After about 12-15 years of service they start to break down and plug the filters with what appears to be hair. This was a massive problem on the old 2-stroke BRP skis. One thing I tried to pay attention to in your descriptions was that the performance dropped off when the angle of approach changed. That would suggest to me that there is a fuel related problem going on there. If there is water anywhere in the system, like the fuel shut off valve or stock water separator has too much water in it, that water is changing position getting in the way of the fuel flow and cutting off any throughput.

One other area to look at, as weird as it sounds, is the one way valve on the tank vent. I just went through this over the last 2 weeks. It nagged me for months to change out my pump seal, that cured almost all remaining gremlins...that and the new coil lol. But what told me I had a tank vent issue was the hood liner. My hood liner had a white fog stuck to it right above the tank vent. I checked the vent, it tested out properly. I couldn't figure it out, I thought maybe it was backlog of too much fuel since the new pump seal changed everything and made the engine load properly, giving a rich running condition compared to how it was tuned before to the lesser engine load. I thought maybe the overloaded fuel charge was backfiring out the intake and sticking to my hood liner. So I cleaned the liner and went out, the ski ran pretty good but still not where it should have been. It would run amazingly for about 20-30 minutes then start losing power. Same thing as you, most noticeable when grabbing a handful of throttle to set up for an incline off of a big wave. I would get about 70% power and that was it. I get the ski back to the house, pull the hood and there is the fog again. It turned out to be a pin hole in the piece of fuel hose going from the tank vent spigot to the vent. I replaced the little piece of hose and haven't had an issue since. Hard to believe a pin hole on a vent line would be enough to mess with the running condition of a ski but it actually does...a pin hole darn it! lol. I checked everything, I mean everything. The tank vent spigot to see if maybe the tank was cracked around the spigot releasing pressure, changed the additional inline fuel filter, cleaned carbs, everything I could think of. It was just like your symptoms, felt like it guzzled a gallon of water. I figure that after 20 minutes or so of ride time, the fuel capacity is down enough that the tank pressure becomes needed to help maintain proper flow pressure. When it can escape like it did with my ski...even to the smallest detail, the pressure is too low and holding the engine back with insufficient fuel quantity.

A tip to help reduce water ingestion into the carbs, aim the breather tube so the opening is pointing toward the spark plugs. The stock breather tube when mounted according to the little lock-in tab aims the opening down toward the bottom of the fuel tank. That didn't seem right to me since when the ski is laying on its side from a spill and re-boarding, it probably has a good volume of water in the bilge too. The stock angle for the breather tube would make it act like a shovel and scoop water in since it puts the opening below the water line of a good and full bilge. Since I changed the angle on my breather tube I have had a substantial improvement in dry, water free carbs.
 
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Roseand

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Honestly after thinking about it I don't think my ski is taking on an excessive amount of water. Square modded hood. Deep/inverted stabs take on water..
 

Roseand

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The issue was never getting water in my carbs. My ski doesn't take in much water really..
Had a spare check valve so I replaced it, and then cut back my plug wires. Tank was almost dry, so I filled it up with brand new gas. Since I run a line straight from the reserve pickup to a filter then the carb, I raised the pickup around an inch so if there was a little water it wouldn't suck it as easily. Went out riding, and we've got quite a storm front so it was knee to waste high surf and I was constantly jumping waves and shredding. For the first half an hour, it was lacking power, like running at 75%(even at WOT) and wasn't snappy. When I hit a wave and landed tail far down and had to recover, it was extremely sluggish and took a while at WOT for it to eventually get back to 75% power. It was rideable Cuz of how awesome the waves were, and it did have a consistent throttle response.
About 15 mins to 30 mins later, I noticed it getting a decently amount better, and after a little more than an hour of riding it finally was very snappy and pretty much back to normal, even after a jump and really having to recover. By this time I could tell I was low on fuel(low enough that while recovering it'd hesitate because the pickups weren't completely submerged)
So when it's low on fuel/or after running for over an hour, it starts to run really good.. Weird.
 
Having the same problems myself. Could you take a pic of where your breather tube is located separate from where it was stock? Pretty sure mine is located up into my handle pole and that has been under water constantly with subs, nose stabs and the recent attempted barrel rolls to ski landing upside down on top of me attempts. Going to try each one of these steps one by one. So funny you explained exactly what I've been experiencing but couldn't figure out how to explain it. When the ski is running right you can just tell then it only gives you 75% and usually going up a wave for a trick when it happens. Been driving me crazy but just been running it because I just want to ride so bad.
 
Too much water running to waterbox? Have you tried adjusting how much water the pisser lets out to dry it out?

After a sideways landing go in to beach and check inside engine compartment for excessive water to rule out hood liner.
 

Roseand

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I'm running a flow control valve. Too much water wouldn't make it run like absolute shiat and then an hour later it'd be fine. Don't take in much water, easy to tell by what comes out of the bilge pump.
It gets better after a little over an hour which has me stumped, and it's not like I ride any different in that hour. It never used to do this.
 

Roseand

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Supposedly there was a thread about someone whose ski would run like crapwith a full tank and get better when it was empty.. Does anyone remember that?
 
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I thought I remembered one the other way around, good full then run like crap at lower levels, pin hole in tank internal tube feed line
 

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I had the same problem and my tank valve was not letting air into the tank.

If you unscrew your gas cap during a hot day does it blow air out? If you unscrew your gas cap after riding does it suck air in?
 

Roseand

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Yes, my tank pressurizes and the one way valve let's air into the tank. I just replaced it two days ago to see if that was it and the old valve was fine too.
 

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I don't have much time to test different things since college started, so it'd be nice to get some more ideas on what could be wrong, Cuz I've never heard of something like this..
 
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