Strainers/filters

[Ericfox]

I am looking at Mcmaster and also on Atlantic Jetsports to get 2 decent strainers for my cooling system...

I have been thinking that a strainer with a collector bowl would be better than a garden hose with a little washer-strainer because it would take longer to get clogged and I can clean and inspect it easily.

I believe I should use a strainer on each cooling line in my dual cooling system because I will be using restrictors down stream from the strainers. The restrictors would become clogged much easier than the 3/8 cooling line. It would probably be MUCH better to trap any crap in the filter than have it somewhere in the line where I cannot see it...

I have never had a problem with clogging before, but I have never been running so many T's and restrictors and flow control valves and such like I will be using in this cooling setup... Maybe I'm paranoid?

I usually ride at inland lakes in ohio and once or twice a year up at lake Erie for a few days. Are the filters a good idea in your opinions? I would love to hear a few more opinions before I go spend $40+ on 2 little filters...

I also am going to purchase that Jetworks adjustable restrictor so I can easily fine-tune the engine temperature throughout the changes from spring-summer-fall... how do you guys measure your engine temp?

Thanks guys...

 

[SuperJETT]

I ran one from mcmaster when I had my Speedwerx pipe---almost required to run one with them, they clog easily. I liked it, pretty small, clear bowl so you could check it visually, lightweight. I included it with the pipe when I sold it.

I'd get part# 98775K41 with both the 80 and 50 mesh screens, you'll need 1/4" pipe to 3/8" barb fittings 5346K18 unless you do 1/2" hoses.

EDIT: fixed part number thanks to Ericfox

 

[Proformance1]

I bought a Flo Jet from Parker Yamaha and decided not to run it bacause it restricts water flow and Factory Pipe recomends against that. Although I believe they make one specifically for their pipe. I am still thinking about running one at my stinger jet, but not on the whole cooling line.

 

[Ericfox]

I ran one from mcmaster when I had my Speedwerx pipe---almost required to run one with them, they clog easily. I liked it, pretty small, clear bowl so you could check it visually, lightweight. I included it with the pipe when I sold it.

I'd get part# 98775K41 with both the 80 and 50 mesh screens, you'll need 1/4" pipe to 3/8" barb fittings 5346K24 unless you do 1/2" hoses.

Are you sure that the filter would not need the 5346K18 barb fittings instead of the 5346K24? I think you might have flipped the numbers on the chart on the catelog... if I do the filter thing- I will get it this way... it ends up a little cheaper than getting them from Atlantic Jetsports...

 

[blaster800]

Eric , I run 2 filters in my b-1 , one on each intake pump line , they are about 3-4 inches tall, the whole 4 days running in daytona i filled one of them up about half way , the only reason i use them was the restrictor in my mod pipe line , I personally like them FWIW

 

[thegoldenboy]

I'd say forget it. If you're worried take off your cooling lines mid season and blow them out with compressed air.

Even if clogged changes are your ski will still be okay. Keep an eye on your pisser temperatures, feel them with your hand periodically through out the day.

You don't ride salt so buildup won't result, all you'd be concerned with is the lake erie "goo weeds".

For the most part a superjet filters itself pretty good. For your mods I wouldn't worry about them, chances are you'll forget they are there and not empty them anyways.

Like I mentioned, blow out the lines after a month or so of riding. If there is debris coming out consider a filter setup than. Don't worry about it now.

Just my opinion, no one said it was right but me.

 

[SuperJETT]

Are you sure that the filter would not need the 5346K18 barb fittings instead of the 5346K24? I think you might have flipped the numbers on the chart on the catelog... if I do the filter thing- I will get it this way... it ends up a little cheaper than getting them from Atlantic Jetsports...

I may have, let me look. Yep, you're right, sorry.

 

[Mark44]

I have never run one and really see no reason to do so, I also run in fresh water and have never had a problem in all the years.

I think they would be just more stuff under the hood you would have to mess with. IMO

Mark44

 

[Ericfox]

I have never run one and really see no reason to do so, I also run in fresh water and have never had a problem in all the years.

I think they would be just more stuff under the hood you would have to mess with. IMO

Mark44

That's what I am thinking 50%.... The only part of the system I am worried about is this: Jetworks pointed out to me that putting a restrictor after the jetworks flow control valve is a good idea (between the valve and the stinger)....I can kinda understand why they recommend it, but dont know if it's really that great of an idea.... If this restrictor got clogged I would never know since the water would just go to the other side of the T and out the pisser. The stinger and stuff would then have absolutely no water going to them...

Other than that if the restrictors, fittings, lines got clogged- I would see one of the pissers go out... a filter would still prevent this, but since I could see the pisser stop flowing I guess I would could use the frequent observation of the pissers instead of the filter....

 

[Mark44]

I have run a 2.0 seat in that line before I ran the jet works flow control and never had a clog. I also see no reason to run a restrictor and a jet works valve, that is what the valve does at low RPM.

Not saying it couldn't happen but never has happened to me.

Mark44

 

[SuperJETT]

I have run a 2.0 seat in that line before I ran the jet works flow control and never had a clog. I also see no reason to run a restrictor and a jet works valve, that is what the valve does at low RPM.

Not saying it couldn't happen but never has happened to me.

Mark44

It can happen. I've had small pieces of sticks get in my restrictors, small pieces of plastic bags, small pebbles, etc.

 

[crammit442]

Strainers are ONLY good if you intend to actually check them frequently. Most builders recommend against them because planning to check them regularly is easier than actually doing it. The minute you stop looking you can easily overheat your motor. If one clogs from sand there is good reason to believe the other will be clogged also. They're also a bit hard to deal with in a standup because of the close confines. The only one I use is a self cleaning FPP(won't work for regular cooling lines) filter for ECWI and it is only needed because of the extremely small orifice at the ECWI sprayer(small main jet). I'd be VERY careful putting anything that could hinder incoming flow.

 

[crammit442]

It can happen. I've had small pieces of sticks get in my restrictors, small pieces of plastic bags, small pebbles, etc.

Me too. As a rule, I've usually been able to hear the difference in motor tone if the stinger suddenly dries up.

 

[SuperJETT]

Strainers are ONLY good if you intend to actually check them frequently. Most builders recommend against them because planning to check them regularly is easier than actually doing it. The minute you stop looking you can easily overheat your motor. If one clogs from sand there is good reason to believe the other will be clogged also. They're also a bit hard to deal with in a standup because of the close confines. The only one I use is a self cleaning FPP(won't work for regular cooling lines) filter for ECWI and it is only needed because of the extremely small orifice at the ECWI sprayer(small main jet). I'd be VERY careful putting anything that could hinder incoming flow.

Did you see the one I recommended? It's small, with a clear bowl that screws on/off. Takes 30 seconds to pull the bowl, clear it, and put it back on, and it fits perfectly in the back left corner of the hull where the cooling line comes in behind the headpipe.

 

[SuperJETT]

Me too. As a rule, I've usually been able to hear the difference in motor tone if the stinger suddenly dries up.

I actually clogged my restrictor at Freestylefest last fall. I wished I had my strainer then, it was a PITA to get the restrictor out of the water line because it was in a bend right at the pisser.

 

[crammit442]

Did you see the one I recommended? It's small, with a clear bowl that screws on/off. Takes 30 seconds to pull the bowl, clear it, and put it back on, and it fits perfectly in the back left corner of the hull where the cooling line comes in behind the headpipe.

Yeah I saw it. That's what I thought you were talking about. I agree it's not that much of a hassle to deal with, but it is one more thing to watch and since he's talking about doing this to both incoming lines it seems to me to be a solution looking for a problem with his pipe config.

 

[crammit442]

I actually clogged my restrictor at Freestylefest last fall. I wished I had my strainer then, it was a PITA to get the restrictor out of the water line because it was in a bend right at the pisser.

That's why I use these. As long as you install the pill on the downstram side of the connection all you have to do is unplug the piece and wipe away the debris. For that very reason there's no way I would use a restrictor in the actual cooling line.

 

[Ericfox]

OK I'm confused... after re-examining the setup I thought I was going to run- I don't see the point of it anymore... maybe you guys can enlighten me...



I originally thought that one line to the pipe, and one to the manifold would be a great idea because you could see when either line stopped flowing by looking at the pisser... but then I just thought about it more.... all the cooling jackets are connected... so either way you do it- all the water still ends up merging together at some point... so why run it separate? The only way the pisser will really stop is if the line clogs after exiting the head after it T's back together, or when it exits the head pipe....

So other than supplying a little cooler water to the bottom of the headpipe... whats the advantage?

 

[SuperJETT]

The pipe water is not connected to the engine water.

 

[Ericfox]

I thought the water from the manifold went up into the headpipe through the top of the manifold... How is it separate? Definately not saying you're wrong... I just thought that the headpipe jacket was fed through the manifold jacket and then the "jets" in the pipe squirted water into the exhaust from the water in the headpipe jacket....