sunk my brand new 2015 WDK rip...she gone

Foam and some sort of retriever line and be done. Never understood the no foam thing. Just doesn't make sense for the couple lbs you save, especially for a rec rider. As for insurance, and those paying for it, we'll see what happens if you ever go to make a claim, just like the OP has experienced. Even with your contract, can you afford a lawyer to fight their high priced corporate lawyers?

For a pro level rider with a carbon comp ski he rides 4 times and sells off and doesn't pay for, maybe. But, for a boat chasing, flat water flopping weekend ski, 3-4 lbs won't make a difference IMO for a bit more piece of mind.
 

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Two part foam sucks. If your tray and bulkhead and lines aren't perfectly sealed, say hello to lots more than 8 lbs of weight..

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Converting a RIP to a bulkhead design would be a pain in the ass to begin with.. Would have to change all the thru hull tubes and create your own bulkhead. No thanks.

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The RIP has its support with the box that the midshaft and driveshaft go through. Basically, the idea behind it is because since most freestyle hulls don't come with foam, what's the point in having a closed off bulkhead? Instead you can stuff whatever flotation in it if you want, you can run small versiplugs not only to drain the tray like most do, but to drain the engine bay, to be able to use push connect fittings etc., and to be able to put the battery slightly behind where the bulkhead would be too. It's more of for convenience and versatility I guess.


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I suppose, but seems having a sealed tray with foam and using scuppers would be a safer option. With limited downside.
Scuppers aren't necessary. My ski can be upside down for a few seconds and not take on any water.

For sure it'd be safer than no foam and no bulkhead,but it sounds like you can get it to float with noodles and bladders, and not have to ever worry about cutting into your tray and gaining extra wet foam weight. Yes, you could use EPS in the tray, but it'd take forever to have it fit in every area compared to how easy two part is.

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Oh, I'd never use scuppers either. For me, sealed tray with foam and two bilges is the only way. I also don't want to fool with shoving a bunch of crap inside my hull and worrying about pulling it out every time I want to take something apart, or worry about it coming loose and getting tangled in the driveline. But, to each their own!
 

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Oh, I'd never use scuppers either. For me, sealed tray with foam and two bilges is the only way. I also don't want to fool with shoving a bunch of crap inside my hull and worrying about pulling it out every time I want to take something apart, or worry about it coming loose and getting tangled in the driveline. But, to each their own!

Yeah I get where you're coming from man. But, a lot of skis that sink are due to preventable things. Such as improper hood securing, loose hose clamps, etc. I use t bolt hydraulics clamps and double up clamps to make sure I never have that happen.

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Oh, I'd never use scuppers either. For me, sealed tray with foam and two bilges is the only way. I also don't want to fool with shoving a bunch of crap inside my hull and worrying about pulling it out every time I want to take something apart, or worry about it coming loose and getting tangled in the driveline. But, to each their own!


Im going to be running scuppers this next season and a bit worried about it. Luckily my lake is small and only 5 feet deep. No foam and no bilges. I might try to put some noddles in the back if im able to tho. If I go to a deeper lake I will have a retriever or something close to that in the tray so if I go down I have some rope close by
 

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We'll see if you feel the same way in the even something goes wrong and your ski goes down
I have thought about installing a bilge but the way the hull is it puts water to the back of the hull anyways. I may just get a bilge kit but haven't made that step yet. Right now things are in small water areas so haven't put too much thought into it. have to test the scuppers in the water and see how much they let past
 
We'll see if you feel the same way in the even something goes wrong and your ski goes down

If you set them up right, you don't have to worry about it. If I rode surf all the time it would be setup much different. But since most of my riding is done at the lake, the chances of losing a ski are slim.
 
Im going to be running scuppers this next season and a bit worried about it. Luckily my lake is small and only 5 feet deep. No foam and no bilges. I might try to put some noddles in the back if im able to tho. If I go to a deeper lake I will have a retriever or something close to that in the tray so if I go down I have some rope close by

Yeah, that's true, but that's why my bilges are mounted under the midshaft up against the bulkhead.
 
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