Swimming upstream

[Dalton]

Perhaps thats not my strong point on the equations. I just know what i do and how much it weighs. Cutoffs, consumables and the resin puck at the end idk dalton, move to lakeport and help me in my weak areas. As for now i just do what i do and i do know gelcoat is what i like to use as a surface

Fair enough. I didn't mean to hassle you, just wondering how these are built. Looks like they perform great.

 

[air blair]

Ya, thats a little teaser video. What it really can do is better than my ski level. I know you curious to learn, dalton. Im just elementary in my composite skills yet, getting itchier and better everyday

 

[yamanube]

Hull looks good, name needs work.

 

[air blair]

Graphics name or model name. Change it to model flippity flot just wont stop

 

[air blair]

Sam, dont let thus get to your head but you are the best composite guy i know. I bridge like crazy in few spots on top deck. A real trouble area around hood seal area. Silicone bagging would be a great asset to my process. Im sure id still bridge though. Lol

 

[AWolf34]

Make: Air Blair, Model: Dart. Thats what ive been calling it. Props to jeff for making an amazing hull. it literally is a perfect "do it all" hull. its so easy to ride and does exactly what i tell it to with minimal effort. Im sure jeff will have one at wave rave to demo. i dont think anyone will be disappointed.

 

[smdubs]

Thanks but there are many others out there better then me. I just like learning.

 

[Dalton]

Bridging of fabric will add a lot of weight in resin. Core used where not needed will also suck it up. If no bridging and proper baggin bragging 40/60 is easily obtainable. My carbon decks weigh almost 20 lbs so 35 for glass is respectable imo. 2 gallons of resin is about right for a glass tank.

25 pounds of resin in a 33 pound deck makes a 24/76 glass/resin ratio. At that point infusing no longer makes sense and you'd be better off hand laying. 35 pounds is a great weight for a glass deck. What I'm saying is that neither his layup numbers nor his deck numbers add up in any way. 100oz layup is not a "tank" layup at all. That's a lightweight layup. 80oz is even lighter. Adding more resin doesn't turn a lightweight hull into a surf hull. It just doesn't.

My assumption was that he had miscalculated his layup weight. These calculations are important...I don't understand how you could even begin an infusion without knowing exactly what all these numbers are. How do you measure out the correct amount of resin if you don't know exactly how much resin it will take to saturate the reinforcement you are using? Just guess? These are easily calculated numbers.

100 pounds makes sense for a surf hull and so does 2.5 gallons per deck for a surf hull.

80-100oz layup makes perfect sense for a lightweight hull and 33-34 pound decks also makes perfect sense for an 80-100oz layup.

Mixing these numbers and leaving a mystery 30 pounds up in the air leaves me baffled.

 

[air blair]

My secrets held within me on how i get what i get. Most things are reveiled but some arnt. What i can say is i shoot for heavy on my hulls. If i wanted strong and light i could layup differently with that in mind. Most people think how can i get it lighter. Not me. I have my recipe for durability down

 

[yamanube]

Moar pictures!

 

[N3vrSat1sfied]

more pics on his facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AIR-BLAIR/208649289344572

 

[Dalton]

I can't tell if you guys are joking or not. Composites is not a guessing game it's an exact science. To each his own I guess......

 

[Scraggly]

that chain though

 

[Dalton]

My secrets held within me on how i get what i get. Most things are reveiled but some arnt. What i can say is i shoot for heavy on my hulls. If i wanted strong and light i could layup differently with that in mind. Most people think how can i get it lighter. Not me. I have my recipe for durability down

Are you basically saying you don't want to answer my questions?

@smdubs now I know you guys are pulling my leg right? If infusions are too easy then so should be the required calculations for said infusion right?

 

[Dalton]

I'm not aware of a vinyl ester resin with a significant difference in density compared to epoxy. Care to enlighten everyone or is that another well kept secret?

 

[Dalton]

Its a new thing. Not out yet.

Why can't I get a straight answer out of you two?

 

[Scraggly]

 

[air blair]

Infusion lead

 

[Dalton]

Blair, when you told me via pm and in this thread that you were looking for help I assumed you were up for an in depth conversation on the topic. This clearly isn't the case after receiving your texts so I'll step out here and just let you do your thing.

 

[air blair]

Ok dalton. The water got too deep