Super Jet Tee orientation with Flow Control Valve (FCV)

OK... so, JetWorks and Blowsion directions contradict each other on the orientation of the cooling line tee and how you position a FCV.

JetWorks shows straight part of tee to FCV and bottom of tee overboard.
Blowsion shows straight part of tee overboard and bottom of tee to FCV.

Recommendations?

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McDog

Other Administrator
Staff member
Location
South Florida
One is a b pipe and the other is a lay down pipe. Both have the water flow going in the proper direction for the valve.
 

x2mafia

Maximum effort
Location
WA
For me it depends on the application however in everything I do I never listen to blowsion.

I'm kinda local and have fixed several skis they have built lol.

One ski had dual cooling one going to the exhaust manifold the other line going to the top of the head.........

Another buddy had a cooling in line going to a t that went to the head and a pisser
 
I run my b-pipe the way the lay down pipe is setup. The reason being that I want the mass volume of water to go overboard and the minimal to go to the stinger. It will still work the other way but water prefers the path of least resistance, letting it go through the straight section of the T overboard, it will be less pressurized on the bottom leg of the T and help that waterbox stay drier.
 
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I posted this thread because I believed the “straight through” path of least resistance thing. Are you stating that’s not correct. Would like to see some legitimate proof.


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I think you both have the same position as I read them both
 

Half flip95

Formerly pondracer95
Pressure in fluids at rest

Fluid pressure is most often the compressive stress at some point within a fluid. (The term fluid refers to both liquids and gases – for more information specifically about liquid pressure, see section below.)

Fluid pressure occurs in one of two situations:
1.An open condition, called "open channel flow", e.g. the ocean, a swimming pool, or the atmosphere.
2.A closed condition, called "closed conduit", e.g. a water line or gas line.

Pressure in open conditions usually can be approximated as the pressure in "static" or non-moving conditions (even in the ocean where there are waves and currents), because the motions create only negligible changes in the pressure. Such conditions conform with principles of fluid statics. The pressure at any given point of a non-moving (static) fluid is called the hydrostatic pressure.

Closed bodies of fluid are either "static", when the fluid is not moving, or "dynamic", when the fluid can move as in either a pipe or by compressing an air gap in a closed container. The pressure in closed conditions conforms with the principles of fluid dynamics.

The concepts of fluid pressure are predominantly attributed to the discoveries of Blaise Pascal and Daniel Bernoulli. Bernoulli's equation can be used in almost any situation to determine the pressure at any point in a fluid. The equation makes some assumptions about the fluid, such as the fluid being ideal[9] and incompressible.[9] An ideal fluid is a fluid in which there is no friction, it is inviscid [9] (zero viscosity).[9] The equation for all points of a system filled with a constant-density fluid is[10



Fluid statics or hydrostatics

Due to the fundamental nature of fluids, a fluid cannot remain at rest under the presence of a shear stress. However, fluids can exert pressure normal to any contacting surface. If a point in the fluid is thought of as an infinitesimally small cube, then it follows from the principles of equilibrium that the pressure on every side of this unit of fluid must be equal. If this were not the case, the fluid would move in the direction of the resulting force. Thus, the pressure on a fluid at rest is isotropic; i.e., it acts with equal magnitude in all directions. This characteristic allows fluids to transmit force through the length of pipes or tubes; i.e., a force applied to a fluid in a pipe is transmitted, via the fluid, to the other end of the pipe. This principle was first formulated, in a slightly extended form, by Blaise Pascal, and is now called Pascal's law.
 

long beach local

long beach local
Location
Az
many different ways will work I suppose. The FCV is adjustable so you can run your waterbox as dry as you like . I run dual cooling, 1 line feeds exhaust manifold (motor) and the 2nd line feeds the bottom of the headpipe or just the exhaust with cold water basically i use this plumbing on both pipes above . my lay down pipe is a bit more complicated but i feed both pipes with cold water seems to work for me especially in summertime .
 

x2mafia

Maximum effort
Location
WA
Pressure in fluids at rest

Fluid pressure is most often the compressive stress at some point within a fluid. (The term fluid refers to both liquids and gases – for more information specifically about liquid pressure, see section below.)

Fluid pressure occurs in one of two situations:
1.An open condition, called "open channel flow", e.g. the ocean, a swimming pool, or the atmosphere.
2.A closed condition, called "closed conduit", e.g. a water line or gas line.

Pressure in open conditions usually can be approximated as the pressure in "static" or non-moving conditions (even in the ocean where there are waves and currents), because the motions create only negligible changes in the pressure. Such conditions conform with principles of fluid statics. The pressure at any given point of a non-moving (static) fluid is called the hydrostatic pressure.

Closed bodies of fluid are either "static", when the fluid is not moving, or "dynamic", when the fluid can move as in either a pipe or by compressing an air gap in a closed container. The pressure in closed conditions conforms with the principles of fluid dynamics.

The concepts of fluid pressure are predominantly attributed to the discoveries of Blaise Pascal and Daniel Bernoulli. Bernoulli's equation can be used in almost any situation to determine the pressure at any point in a fluid. The equation makes some assumptions about the fluid, such as the fluid being ideal[9] and incompressible.[9] An ideal fluid is a fluid in which there is no friction, it is inviscid [9] (zero viscosity).[9] The equation for all points of a system filled with a constant-density fluid is[10



Fluid statics or hydrostatics

Due to the fundamental nature of fluids, a fluid cannot remain at rest under the presence of a shear stress. However, fluids can exert pressure normal to any contacting surface. If a point in the fluid is thought of as an infinitesimally small cube, then it follows from the principles of equilibrium that the pressure on every side of this unit of fluid must be equal. If this were not the case, the fluid would move in the direction of the resulting force. Thus, the pressure on a fluid at rest is isotropic; i.e., it acts with equal magnitude in all directions. This characteristic allows fluids to transmit force through the length of pipes or tubes; i.e., a force applied to a fluid in a pipe is transmitted, via the fluid, to the other end of the pipe. This principle was first formulated, in a slightly extended form, by Blaise Pascal, and is now called Pascal's law.


Pascal is a chump cuz Jetskis that's why
 
Pressure in fluids at rest

Fluid pressure is most often the compressive stress at some point within a fluid. (The term fluid refers to both liquids and gases – for more information specifically about liquid pressure, see section below.)

Fluid pressure occurs in one of two situations:
1.An open condition, called "open channel flow", e.g. the ocean, a swimming pool, or the atmosphere.
2.A closed condition, called "closed conduit", e.g. a water line or gas line.

Pressure in open conditions usually can be approximated as the pressure in "static" or non-moving conditions (even in the ocean where there are waves and currents), because the motions create only negligible changes in the pressure. Such conditions conform with principles of fluid statics. The pressure at any given point of a non-moving (static) fluid is called the hydrostatic pressure.

Closed bodies of fluid are either "static", when the fluid is not moving, or "dynamic", when the fluid can move as in either a pipe or by compressing an air gap in a closed container. The pressure in closed conditions conforms with the principles of fluid dynamics.

The concepts of fluid pressure are predominantly attributed to the discoveries of Blaise Pascal and Daniel Bernoulli. Bernoulli's equation can be used in almost any situation to determine the pressure at any point in a fluid. The equation makes some assumptions about the fluid, such as the fluid being ideal[9] and incompressible.[9] An ideal fluid is a fluid in which there is no friction, it is inviscid [9] (zero viscosity).[9] The equation for all points of a system filled with a constant-density fluid is[10



Fluid statics or hydrostatics

Due to the fundamental nature of fluids, a fluid cannot remain at rest under the presence of a shear stress. However, fluids can exert pressure normal to any contacting surface. If a point in the fluid is thought of as an infinitesimally small cube, then it follows from the principles of equilibrium that the pressure on every side of this unit of fluid must be equal. If this were not the case, the fluid would move in the direction of the resulting force. Thus, the pressure on a fluid at rest is isotropic; i.e., it acts with equal magnitude in all directions. This characteristic allows fluids to transmit force through the length of pipes or tubes; i.e., a force applied to a fluid in a pipe is transmitted, via the fluid, to the other end of the pipe. This principle was first formulated, in a slightly extended form, by Blaise Pascal, and is now called Pascal's law.

Good information...

What I take away from this is, “Thus, the pressure on a fluid at rest is isotropic; i.e., it acts with equal magnitude in all directions.”


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Absolutely good info. I would have to retrace some old research again but if I recall correctly, this pertains to a closed loop circuit which is why the description of equal pressure comes into play, an example of this would be a hydraulic cylinder. The fluid is being forced in all directions due to being pressurized in a manner similar to compression. Where that changes is when it moves from restrictive pressure to open channel pressure, this is where the study of hydrodynamics comes into play because the principles of hydrodynamics are exactly the same as aerodynamics. Forcing air or fluid to move freely across and open channel will yield higher flow rates than trying to slam it against a wall and change it's direction. Also with water more specifically, when you pressurize it to conform to a sharp corner it has a difficult time doing so and will create an air pocket where the water will then boil and send bubbles into the stream. The cornering actually forces the separation of air from the water molecules through the friction of the sharp corner...heat from friction. This is also evident when a worn wear ring allows excessive impeller spin, the end result is cavitation or, air molecules being torn out of the water leaving the prop boil effect :)
 
I'm believe I am not interpreting that photo properly. The 1/8" line appears to be directly connected to the 3/8 line on the right which is flowing as it should, but the top leg of the T appears to be linked into the 3/8 on the left...if this is correct then it makes proper sense. The top leg of the T has no flow because the through side of the T is an open end having no resistance. There is no resistance there to force the water up the top side of the T. Do you have any different angles of that setup to show the experiment more clearly?
 
I could easily be askew on this. I am by no means a study major in the field, I can say though for sure that on my ski I have two T's on my handlebars with waterlines plumbed up to spray my hands in cold water. The bottom leg of those T's do not have a drop coming out of them ever but the straight through is always blasting my hands...and it's nice, oooh yeaaah hehe :D
 
on the lay down pipe setup shown, they wasted a bunch of hose and made it way less sanitary with hose flopping. they should have ran a straight piece from the head pipe to the stinger, with the pisser T in the middle like the Bpipe directions. the path of least resistance is going to be the leg without the flow valve blocking the water at low RPM. I use the pro flow and adjust it on the trailer before I put the hose on the stinger, with a little water dumping in the stinger at WFO
 
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