The Ducky J Trump & mikesx Great Debate Thread..... Head Meet Wall, Wall Meet Head.......

It is really amusing to watch how hysterical people are getting over this "separating of parents/children" issue when in reality, they have no clue what they are talking about and believe exactly what the democrat leaders and fake news media say. LOL! This is just the issue of the week/month folks. Russia didnt work out. Pornstars didnt work out. Now they are so desperate to make the issue about kids.
I'm sure Manafort, Cohen, Flynn, Gates, and Poppydoppy or however you spell it are thinkin all about how Russia didn't work out.
 
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Ads about what? Saying what?


Didnt Obama give money and weapons to oust the Syrian leader? Buuut thats ok?
Didnt that basically start ISIS ?
But Trumps a nazi?
Pfft
Obama wasn't born 10,000 years ago when this portion of the world was started formulating its religious based culture. If you want to blame US presidents, you can also add Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford ,Carter, throw Reagan in there for arming his so called freedom fighters, Bush 1 ,Clinton, Bush 2 ,they all have had a hand in it. The flavor of the day name for it doesn't mean sh*t.
 

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Obama wasn't born 10,000 years ago when this portion of the world was started formulating its religious based culture. If you want to blame US presidents, you can also add Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford ,Carter, throw Reagan in there for arming his so called freedom fighters, Bush 1 ,Clinton, Bush 2 ,they all have had a hand in it. The flavor of the day name for it doesn't mean sh*t.

Lol well then you should understand that the Fake News story of the week also doesnt mean sh*t!
 
Lol well then you should understand that the Fake News story of the week also doesnt mean sh*t!
To be honest with you I really wasn't paying attention to it. What gets me is if it's fake ,why is your boy caving in ? While I got you Duck I just want to ask you if you think your boys use of a totally incompetent legal team( Befuddled Old Rudy, Soon to Flip Cohen, Lawyer for a day Joey Two Pants Bag of Donuts from fox news, etc. etc.) is intentional, you know ,so later on he can claim he didn't have "adequate" legal representation? And I'm giving the idiot some credit here, because if so it would be brilliant, but it is unlikely he's that smart.
 
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I think his legal team is working out fine. If it wasn't, maybe he would have been charged with something by now....but there isn't any evidence of collusion or anything like that so technically, I could be his Lawyer and he would still be in the same position. Who cares about his legal team right now? Lets focus on making our country better, and more importantly, ourselves better.
 
I think his legal team is working out fine. If it wasn't, maybe he would have been charged with something by now....but there isn't any evidence of collusion or anything like that so technically, I could be his Lawyer and he would still be in the same position. Who cares about his legal team right now? Lets focus on making our country better, and more importantly, ourselves better.
You do not know that, just like you didn't know Cohen was getting his door kicked in. Fact is , you know nothing about it. Facts are trumpies kryptonite. The collusion thing is far from settled. Your prophet says one thing one day only to reverse the next. As I have always maintained, I don't think trump himself is smart enough to collude, but the idiots he surrounds himself with are another story. Therein lies the problem. There is an orchestrated investigation going on, what seems to a brilliant one at that, you know charging potential witnesses with state crimes to negate pardon power for example. Must be getting to him , desperately creating all this other bull to distract his supporters. And again I ask, about the fake news of the week, why did he cave in if it is fake?
 

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You do not know that, just like you didn't know Cohen was getting his door kicked in. Fact is , you know nothing about it. Facts are trumpies kryptonite. The collusion thing is far from settled. Your prophet says one thing one day only to reverse the next. As I have always maintained, I don't think trump himself is smart enough to collude, but the idiots he surrounds himself with are another story. Therein lies the problem. There is an orchestrated investigation going on, what seems to a brilliant one at that, you know charging potential witnesses with state crimes to negate pardon power for example. Must be getting to him , desperately creating all this other bull to distract his supporters. And again I ask, about the fake news of the week, why did he cave in if it is fake?

Cave on what exactly? Separating families?
 

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The law as administered by him.

I dont believe he caved...he played the Democrats like a fiddle. The outrage was over separation of kids from "parents" (Whether they were actually real parents or not). Trump fixed the separation of family issue with an Executive Order, which will probably be part of a lawsuit since it goes against Flores agreement of the mid 90s and might get overruled. Now that he fixed the issue of outrage for the Dems, their true colors are showing, because in reality, they want no detention of the families...they just want them to have a free pass. So yes, he played them perfectly. Trump's administration was upholding existing laws (i know, you arent used to that) and added a zero tolerance policy of illegal border crossing. You Never Trumpers have a reallllllly hard time separating the issue of legal immigration from illegal immigration.
 
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I dont believe he caved...he played the Democrats like a fiddle. The outrage was over separation of kids from "parents" (Whether they were actually real parents or not). Trump fixed the separation of family issue with an Executive Order, which will probably be part of a lawsuit since it goes against Flores agreement of the mid 90s and might get overruled. Now that he fixed the issue of outrage for the Dems, their true colors are showing, because in reality, they want no detention of the families...they just want them to have a free pass. So yes, he played them perfectly. Trump's administration was upholding existing laws (i know, you arent used to that) and added a zero tolerance policy of illegal border crossing. You Never Trumpers have a reallllllly hard time separating the issue of legal immigration from illegal immigration.
What a fancy way of saying he caved. I wasn't outraged at all. Should of stuck to his guns though
 

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You can call it whatever you want really. Doesnt matter to me. Schumer literally said that Democrats werent interested in new legislation for immigration issues and that they "wanted to keep the focus on Trump." Trump did what he had to....you can call it caving....I call it outsmarting the democrats.
 
You can call it whatever you want really. Doesnt matter to me. Schumer literally said that Democrats werent interested in new legislation for immigration issues and that they "wanted to keep the focus on Trump." Trump did what he had to....you can call it caving....I call it outsmarting the democrats.
You think he'll cave on tariffs? Are you for or against tariffs?
 

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There are tons of tarriffs on our products across the world. I like that we are finally addressing it by placing some of our own in retaliation. I see it as a negotiating tactic to broker some fair treatment from our trading partners. They wont last. It's just part of the process.
 
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