Thinking of buying a new Superjet?

[Hagan]

I've had my '90 SN SJ for ~6 years and while I do still enjoy riding it it unfortunately lacks power. I've looked for a RN Superjet but usually the prices are anywhere from $5k to $8k which seems crazy to me that a 20 year old ski is still $5k. Then I got the idea of buying a new Superjet. I can get one for ~$8k. I understand that people spend a lot of money on mods and that's why the prices are so high on some of them. I only really plan on riding it stock with maybe a pipe.

It also worries me I won't be able to buy a Superjet if they take them out of production or ban 2 stroke sales. That's why I think now would be a good time for me.

I've also talked my wife into letting her ride my SN. I'm trying to get her into it. So she's letting me get a new ski.

I've thought about an aftermarket hull but to be honest I won't ever go that extreme. I feel like it would be something that I would have to tinker with every time I'm out on the water.

Does a new ski sound right for me?

 

[Big Kahuna]

There are so many plusses to buying a new ski. Go For it.

 

[Rushford_Ripper]

You have a 701 squarenose?

Power is all in the eyes of the wallet. Think logically about this, spend $3000 on motor/mods for your current ski and make an arm ripper or spend $8000 on a new ski that will eventually leave you wanting more!


Just my input...

 

[Jhucke]

New ski is like night to day difference on the water if you haven't ridden one.

 

[Hagan]

There are so many plusses to buying a new ski. Go For it.

That's exactly what I'm thinking!

You have a 701 squarenose?

Power is all in the eyes of the wallet. Think logically about this, spend $3000 on motor/mods for your current ski and make an arm ripper or spend $8000 on a new ski that will eventually leave you wanting more!


Just my input..Thinking!

Yeah I swapped a 701 about 5 years ago. It's a single carb stock motor. The problem is I still need another ski for the wife. And it's still an older hull as I've never ridden a RN.

New ski is like night to day difference on the water if you haven't ridden one.

That's what I want to hear. Is it a better difference?

 

[Wake Rider]

New ski is like night to day difference on the water if you haven't ridden one.

You're referring to the ride of post 08 hulls, right?


If you're already thinking of putting a pipe on it, you might as well get a slightly used one and save some money. This one: http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/2013-yamaha-superjet-modded.183376/
was listed for $5500 before it was bought up and relisted...

If you have no intentions of modifying the engine, go for a new one. My dad loves how reliable his stock blaster is.

 

[Hagan]

You're referring to the ride of post 08 hulls, right?


If you're already thinking of putting a pipe on it, you might as well get a slightly used one and save some money. This one: http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/2013-yamaha-superjet-modded.183376/
was listed for $5500 before it was bought up and relisted...

If you have no intentions of modifying the engine, go for a new one. My dad loves how reliable his stock blaster is.

I'm in Oregon...so Florida is out of the question.

I haven't ridden one, so I may be happy with the 10hp difference with the new ski.

I have no intentions on modifying the engine maybe the exhaust. I want years of reliability and enjoyment. I can always build an A/M hull if I ever decide to.

 

[Rushford_Ripper]

Well if you modify the exhaust, you modify the engine by jetting the carbs and tuning.

The main 10hp difference is going from single carb to dual carb. Take the 61x out and drop in a 62t.

 

[Wake Rider]

I'm not saying buy that exact one. I'm saying look for a late model one like that near you that may or may not have a few mods done to it.

You're also shopping for one at about the worst time to get a good deal. Winter is when people sell their skis and dealers are getting rid of old models...

 

[Jhucke]

I'm in Oregon...so Florida is out of the question.

I haven't ridden one, so I may be happy with the 10hp difference with the new ski.

I have no intentions on modifying the engine maybe the exhaust. I want years of reliability and enjoyment. I can always build an A/M hull if I ever decide to.

The difference I was referring to most certainly had to do with the handling, not the engine power, by the way.

 

[DAG]

Wait so you have a 701 SJ but it lacks power so you want to buy a new 701 SJ?

 

[Rushford_Ripper]

He has a 61x square and wants to buy a new superjet

 

[KMN]

I'd have to problem buying a new Superjet. They don't lose a lot of value and will last 20 years +. If you want a stock one, it's a great avenue. If you're looking to mod it a lot, buying used starts making more sense.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

If it were possible, you should maybe see if there are any riders even somewhat local to you that have both 96-2007 RN, and 2008-current in their group for you to test. From what I understand there is quite a difference in handling quality and capability between the two. The 96-07 was more of a surf ski where the current model is not so much the case with less steering range. It all comes to what you find is suitable, if you like how the SN handles, then the pre 08 might be better suited for you as they have the same bottom deck. If it's possible, testing first could save you a lot of regret later.

 

[Hagan]

Well if you modify the exhaust, you modify the engine by jetting the carbs and tuning.

The main 10hp difference is going from single carb to dual carb. Take the 61x out and drop in a 62t.

Then I'm still left with an old hull and then need to get another ski so my wife can ride. Why put money into my old SN when I can put that into a new ski?

I'm not saying buy that exact one. I'm saying look for a late model one like that near you that may or may not have a few mods done to it.

You're also shopping for one at about the worst time to get a good deal. Winter is when people sell their skis and dealers are getting rid of old models...

Yeah I realize that. Every year I look on CL during winter and see very few if any SJ's. I've checked the last 3 years because I was considering a new SJ and they sell out by the end of the year.

The difference I was referring to most certainly had to do with the handling, not the engine power, by the way.

Thanks! That's what I wanted to hear.

Wait so you have a 701 SJ but it lacks power so you want to buy a new 701 SJ?

Not even close.

 

[Hagan]

If it were possible, you should maybe see if there are any riders even somewhat local to you that have both 96-2007 RN, and 2008-current in their group for you to test. From what I understand there is quite a difference in handling quality and capability between the two. The 96-07 was more of a surf ski where the current model is not so much the case with less steering range. It all comes to what you find is suitable, if you like how the SN handles, then the pre 08 might be better suited for you as they have the same bottom deck. If it's possible, testing first could save you a lot of regret later.

Thanks! I didn't know that. I only ride with my brother who has a 94 SN. I will look around at my options and see what I think is best for me.

 

[Rushford_Ripper]

My old square that I had was re-foamed, shortened RN pole conversion, 62t w/ B-pipe and it rode better than my '01 RN w/ RRP pole and motor/driveline transplant.

Never should have sold that square for the RN but again that's my opinion and my riding style.

 

[Jhucke]

I agree with propulsion. If handling is important to you, the 08+ hull really bites if you commit to the turn. You can spend all the money you want attempting to re-create the handling characteristics of the new hull on a squarenose, but it won't happen - its a completely different bottom deck.

I bought a '14 hull for this years winter project and put the driveline from my squarenose into it.. It is still fine for messing around on, just like any superjet, but if putting around and hitting your own wakes in the only thing you do, you will 100% have to change to a pre 08 steering cable. The new one simply does not turn on a dime like the old one does, less throw. I will be doing that mod soon enough when I find some time.

 

[Baja 252]

Has Yamaha ever fixed the peeling paint issues on the hood? I'd hate to buy a new ski and deal with that issue. I know it's the mold release that caused the issue and in hotter climates it is worse, but have they changed anything to solve the issue?

 

[thomps33]

No, the hoods still peel.