well the second one is really closer to a shoulder roll than a backie (not really either…) so the ski started rolling as soon as it hit the water and help me turn over. I didn't really come back over my body, it was really off to the side a little. I've been so focused on staying in the footholds that I was still in them and just bliped a little throttle to bring the ski back under me. And, at my skill level, there is a lot of just doing something, see what happens then react. Prolly couldn't repeat it if I tried! Got the new pole on this morning so hopefully I can coerce wife or son to video some more attempts with the new pole and the short ride plate. Maybe something will change?