TNT triple pipe

[tntsuperjet]

Here is Sean Valsechi from South Africa TNT powered bullet
Kawi 1100, novi carbs, TNT programable ignition, TNT triple pipes, scat 148 pump
If time allows it will have EFI.

 

[danw]

way to cool

 

[Big Kahuna]

Jeezbus

 

[SmittySX]

That's insane.

 

[bored&stroked]

I'm assuming this is what it takes to skip warp speed and go strait to ludicrous speed? Looks great!

 

[tntsuperjet]

After 2 months and hundreds of man hours between me and my partner we have come to the conclusion these pipes are to expensive to produce and these two sets will be all we build.
Retail would need to be over 6,000 to make any money and that doesn't give any dealer margins at all.

 

[snowxr]

Sounds like a great business model.

 

[Quinc]

@waxhead

 

[Big Kahuna]

I remember when TBM came out with the Twin Pipes for the SXR. Believe they came to the same conclusion.

 

[tntsuperjet]

Snow, no it's not that's why we are not going to mass produce.
16,000 in design.
35,000 in tooling
2500. In jigs.
Who is going to pay 8,500.00 for set of triple pipes???
6,720.00 in labor to build a set of cone pipes.
Plus 670.00 cost on manifolds, then 860 for 3 to one collector into muffler.

 

[tntsuperjet]

Hey, no bashing.
Please I was talked into posting again from a lot of pm asking me to give it another try.
So I did.
But this is a small sport with very few deep pockets and to many people with loud opinions.

Snow like your haul, you never know what your gonna invest till it's over. You can forecast and speculate. But the proof is when your past the half way point.
There is 26 parts to each pipe, figure 45 min a section by time you cut it, roll it, Seam weld it pound it out, and belt sand it square.
You build the first one with a lot of extra pieces to give you fitment options. Well after fitting them all we found there to be very little room to make patterns and reduce the number of parts. The bends are just to crazy.
Stamping is option but at 5,800 per pipe tooling cost plus flange jigs and pressure test jigs.
It's just to dam expensive.
Most triple pipes are made from one set of tooling and cut and turned different to make all three pipes. Well that's not an option here with the way these fit.
We are 3 weeks behind schedule on this project and the boat has to leave so that is going to end this project for now.
We will look into it at another date if we buy a bigger cnc and can make the tooling In house but right now we can't.
So it makes the pipes a bad business decision at this time.
But we can say we did it. Woo who.

 

[Quinc]

Can you lean on your connection with factory pipe and modify there tooling/pipes for the tripple gp1200 and polaris pipes?

 

[tntsuperjet]

Already tipped that boat over. No way to make them fit a SXR.
Tried it.
All we can do is hope I have a good year with free ride pipe and recover some of the money I have invested.
It's over 50k this year and so far sales have only been 13k.

 

[ajmps1]

What if you use these pipes as plugs to make molds for carbon pipes??

 

[tntsuperjet]

You couldn't make a pipe out of a worse material then carbon.
In order for a pipe to work well you need the surface to be able to heat up fast. That will give the pipe better power range.
Carbon will not resonate and heat dissipation of the material is poor.
Never happen in my tent.

 

[ajmps1]

Haha so not a fan of the rrp carbon chambers then. 3d printers can do metal now...

 

[Nuklear6]

You couldn't make a pipe out of a worse material then carbon.
In order for a pipe to work well you need the surface to be able to heat up fast. That will give the pipe better power range.
Carbon will not resonate and heat dissipation of the material is poor.
Never happen in my tent.

Been saying this for years. They don't make dinner bells out of composites for a reason. ........

 

[restosud]

how about a single pipe then for those of us with $$ in hand.

 

[Big Kahuna]

He already makes a single pipe.

 

[Thumper333f]

^^^ for the triples^^^?