Super Jet Tripple Cooling

[Pro-pulsion]

G'day fellers, I am in need of some input here. I want to setup my pump for triple cooling. The intent is to dual cool the engine, and have a dedicated cooling supply line for the pipe. My question is, is this possible to do with a stock 144 pump? Is the pump housing thick enough to tap directly into or would it be better to try and tap a second port into the original stock supply port. I noticed the original location has an elongated square block, I wonder if tapping into that spot would reduce volume to the original fitting, or if it would work out. The pump is already tapped for dual cooling, and a new 1/2" line has been added for the stock siphon bilge. But if I can tap a third supply line, I might change up the cooling lines to 1/2" supplies. If anyone has added a third supply, could you post pics of how you did it? Thanks everyone.

 

[Dartman]

use 1/2 line from pump all the way through to the engine compartment and use y splitter to 2) 3/8 lines to feed engine

 

[jetx]

What is the idea behind needing triple cooling?

I wouldn't think our water temps would require that much cooling.

 

[speedysprocket]

You're engine is so big that it makes enough heat to require three cooling lines, but you're running a stock pump...? Sounds like you're skipping over an important piece of the puzzle...
To answer your question, though, best thing would probably be to drill a new hole in the stator and weld a bung onto it.
And your current two fittings are tapped to 1/4" NPT, not the stock 1/8" NPT...?

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Speedy, instead of sarcasm how about just answering the question. I am sick of people with their attitude. You want a reason, how about this, one of my cooling fittings blew out of my manifold last year and line #2 was supplying the pipe, ergo virtually no cooling was getting to the engine even with a T'd 3/8 line. Water was boiling off of the head, so regardless of how big the engine is, yes it generated enough heat to shut it down. If you don't like what you read, rather than looking like an ass throwing around keyboard cowboy attitude, skip it and move onto the next thread. Sometimes the best thing to say, is nothing at all.

 

[speedysprocket]

Speedy, instead of sarcasm how about just answering the question. I am sick of people with their attitude. You want a reason, how about this, one of my cooling fittings blew out of my manifold last year and line #2 was supplying the pipe, ergo virtually no cooling was getting to the engine even with a T'd 3/8 line. Water was boiling off of the head, so regardless of how big the engine is, yes it generated enough heat to shut it down. If you don't like what you read, rather than looking like an ass throwing around keyboard cowboy attitude, skip it and move onto the next thread. Sometimes the best thing to say, is nothing at all.

Well sorry that came off so negative to you. I thought I had legitimate questions and suggestions, though. Sorry for questioning your reasoning. I only do it to try and help people think through their problem rather than just letting them jump to a conclusion that may not be the best solution and end up wasting time, energy, and resources.
I got the message though. Won't post on your threads. Good luck with your mods.

 

[alex_hockey]

The water is so cold right now make sure you don't cold seize. I run single cooling all year in erie and Ontario with restrictors. But I don't run my motors ice cold like a few that ive seen. Always keep an eye on your pissers and you'll know as soon as you have no flow.

 

[SXIPro]

[QUOTE=" Sometimes the best thing to say, is nothing at all.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Thumper's mother say that in Bambi?

 

[Ducky]

Yea, I would run 1 line into you manifold. You can either run two fittings on the manifold with a T from the 1 line, or just plus one hole and run the cooling line on 1 side of the manifold. Then run the other dedicated line to the pipe. Watch your pissers, and youll know if a cooling line pops off.

 

[SXIPro]

Yea, I would run 1 line into you manifold. You can either run two fittings on the manifold with a T from the 1 line, or just plus one hole and run the cooling line on 1 side of the manifold. Then run the other dedicated line to the pipe. Watch your pissers, and youll know if a cooling line pops off.

Or watch your bilge fitting......tons of water pouring out even though you've done no stabs or subs or other water-letter-inner type moves....could be an issue, ask me how I know.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Actually Matt, that is how I had it. The second line from the T went to the manifold but the bottom fitting stripped out and fell off. It was still getting cooling, just half of what it needed. The second line from the pump was supplying the pipe as per the recommendation of Speedwerx. I was thinking about tripple cooling to achieve true dual on the engine just because if there were only line to the block, and it did that again the engine would melt down. I had no idea it blew off because there was still water flying through the bypass. It was only when the engine shut down and the bilge kicked it pumping warm water that I knew I lost a cooling line.

 

[CRJ]

Or watch your bilge fitting......tons of water pouring out even though you've done no stabs or subs or other water-letter-inner type moves....could be an issue, ask me how I know.

been there.


Triple cooling in these cold waters is excessive. I run dual but have thermostats on both lines. Hot dry pipes make power, and the colder the motor the less power you will have. Id stick to dual cooling and force the water out the far side of the motor from the inlet to get even cooling.

Actually Matt, that is how I had it. The second line from the T went to the manifold but the bottom fitting stripped out and fell off. It was still getting cooling, just half of what it needed. The second line from the pump was supplying the pipe as per the recommendation of Speedwerx. I was thinking about tripple cooling to achieve true dual on the engine just because if there were only line to the block, and it did that again the engine would melt down. I had no idea it blew off because there was still water flying through the bypass. It was only when the engine shut down and the bilge kicked it pumping warm water that I knew I lost a cooling line.

you should always run one pisser per cooling "system" or line. that way you can see the second you loose cooling to a system.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Hey man, I apologize for coming at ya so strong, but you really could have done without this....

You're engine is so big that it makes enough heat to require three cooling lines, but you're running a stock pump...?

I appreciate the suggestion on welding in a bung though.

 

[speedysprocket]

Hey man, I apologize for coming at ya so strong, but you really could have done without this....

I appreciate the suggestion on welding in a bung though.

Appreciate the apology. Mild sarcasm is just my nature, though. I get you don't know me so it comes off as offensive; my wife tells me that all the time...

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Yup, one bypass was for the pipe, and one for the engine. It happened real fast in shallower waters which was a good bit warmer.

 

[CRJ]

Yup, one bypass was for the pipe, and one for the engine. It happened real fast in shallower waters which was a good bit warmer.

Id judge based on the water temps coming out. if the water coming out is above 150F run twin to the motor. also like you said, water temp your riding in plays a big difference. Bellwood and the grand is a warm water. lake ontario almost gives you enough cooling through the water passing by the hull.

 

[cookn]

Think of how hot a two stoke dirt bike gets on a closed loop cooling system, motors like the heat to a certain point. Not many of us run dual cooling in ontario, but we do run two fittings in the exhaust manifold like stated just to keep better flow.

 

[Blue]

I think dual 1/2 inch is plenty. If u were racing WOT all time maybe but for freestyle stand up probably not necessary unless you have a 1000 or 1200 with crazy high compression. I know my ski with dual 1/2 with all fittings drilled thru to optimize the flow have huge amounts of water pissing out. I think its do able if you feel you need more it wont affect the pump to have another fitting.

 

[Roseand]

I like the idea of having two lines going into the exhaust mani so if one pops off you've still got your engine being cooled by one line.
Then with a seperate line to your headpipe would make it alot easier to tune your pipe. Quite a fool proof setup.
If you've got too much flow you can easily add restrictors to get your desired temp. Or use hose clamps as restrictors. I've done that too. I personally think doing that is a win win situation if you're using restrictors.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Hey thanks very much guys for the input. One thing I wanted to mention but didn't have a chance to, is that the only reason I mentioned the half inch lines is because I had them given to me. If I had 3/8 I would gone that route, it was all just based on whatever my boss was willing to give me...1/2 stainless sounded too tempting to pass up