tue or false, you'll lean sieze a single carb 62t at WOT

Putting a single carb on a 62t case will sieze a motor on WOT runs.

  • True

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  • False

    Votes: 23 85.2%

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keefer

T1
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Tennessee
Trust me, I am decent on carb setups and went through everything, and that's what led me to trying it with no main jet at all.



On my setup, I believe it was due to Novi's internal mods limiting max fuel flow. On others, it's a limit of how much fuel the pump can put out.

I have the notes out in the garage, but it's something like one body mounted fuel pump is good for 110hp @ 6000rpm, and it does extrapolate fairly linearly so 7000rpm is ~128hp.

I would agree that something must have been really jacked up that carb. I mean I am no expert but the way I understand a main circuit to work is that fuel is pulled from the bomb site venturi when the air velocity is high across it and this sucks the fuel into the carb throat. Something must have been real screwy if it was still lean with no main jet!! Thats a pretty big hole for fuel to flow through.
 

chrisdoc0608

insulting
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rocky mount, nc
im sorry,i wast aware of that other thread.im certainly not calling anyone out.it just cracks me up sometimes how one person can make a statement on the internet,then a dozen other people read it and regurgitate it a few times and all of a sudden its fact.


by the same token i dont completey dismiss the idea that a single can lean a motor out at high rpm(note darins posts) but i think its probably very uncommon

well i didnt read this or regurgitate it. i was told this over the phone
 

Kennay

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Myrtle Beach, SC
And stuff like this is probably the reason anyone starting a thread after getting advice from a builder shouldn't mention names. Sort of disrespectful in my opinion. I know you didn't mean it that way though. ;)
 

Matt_E

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Thats would be awesome if the carbs were only flowing for 180 degrees of the intake cycle per cylinder but with the ram effect due to the weight of the air then you will find that the intake cycle is longer in duration

You also have to remember that when the reeds shut they send a pressure wave back up the inlet that confuses the carb for the other cylinder thats trying to flow

But hey a single is better on gas which means its not flowing as much air/fuel which means you are down on power



I actually got worse fuel consumption with a single.
 

Swooperjet

Bring the brap!!
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Dallas, TX
I actually got worse fuel consumption with a single.
Me too. I have a 61x with a single 44 and I hit reserve about 10-15 minutes or so before my riding buddy with a 62t w/dual 38's.
I will say though....I have also been told not to run wot for too long with a single carb.:shrug:Never took that advice, but I have been told that in the past a few times. In fact 2 days ago I was on a full speed run and my engine just shut down. Started right back up and was fine, but that's like the second or third time I've had that happen. ???
 
there is more that one way to burn up a motor but if you are going from two carbs to one carb you are choking the motor
you gotta think of a motor as an air pump
the only thing good you are gonna get from a single carb is easy tuning
since you only have one carb to tune for two cylinders
but back to the question at hand
a single carb isnt gonna burn up your motor
but a single carb not jetted and tuned properly most likley will
 

Kennay

Squarenose for the _____
Location
Myrtle Beach, SC
And for what it's worth, I see it get blamed on the 650 kawi intake more than on the single carb of whatever size. It's mostly ATP mani or don't hold it WOT. The shop that told me not to do it unless you use an ATP manifold also seems to have the most nut huggers on here.
 

SuperJETT

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by the same token i dont completey dismiss the idea that a single can lean a motor out at high rpm(note darins posts) but i think its probably very uncommon


I agree, I think with me it was a combination of things, Speedwerx dry pipe that really revved, older style Novi that had a very different fuel passage inside (it was a longer path than normal), and the Riva manifold.
 

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
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NW Arkansas
you could run 2 carbs per cylinder, and in my opinion I would tell you not to go WOT on that setup either.

timing, porting, compression, MSD = recipe for WOT blown to hell easily, if everything isnt pretty much in tune...






62t/61x ported & epoxied cases, race ported cylinders, coffman, 150psi, msd, 46mm carb, 2* static advance, boysen carbon reeds. same setup i ran on my ported 650
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
yeah i agree
its easy to make an engine blow up on two carbs , easier than on a single

its a issue of tunning

Its also good to tell your customers not to hold it wide open a well
makes it safer that your work will not blow up as well
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
Yeah but when that you bueat engine melts down due to to much compression , to much timing or badly mismatched combinations of a hole lot of things then its easy to say you held it wot with your single carb

also its easy to build an engine thats good for just 1 second brapps much harder to make an engine that a customer can hold flat out for 40 secs +
like a race engine
 
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WFO Speedracer

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Alabama
Well i woods do dat butt I rekon dem dere peoples don speak de rednek,wut fer i don no,btw you ain't frum round here r u boi?
 

Scorn800

Ride for life
Location
North NJ
Yeah but when that you bueat engine melts down due to to much compression , to much timing or badly mismatched combinations of a hole lot of things then its easy to say you held it wot with your single carb

also its easy to build an engine thats good for just 1 second brapps much harder to make an engine that a customer can hold flat out for 40 secs +
like a race engine

I agree.:burnout:

Lots of keyboard tuners:wavey:

Where's da popcorn:Banane09:
 
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