Other Virus Nonsense

[OCD Solutions]

We have 80+ contractors on site doing a plant outage right now and half are leaving at the end of the week to head back to Canada before they can’t get back.

We have half a facility torn apart and incapable of operating until we finish so we are powering through. Thankfully our project is going smooth and we are days ahead of schedule.

I’m in a hotel 3hrs from home and my wife is home with about 2 weeks worth of food. All our restaurants are still open so we are still able to eat at least but I have a feeling that things are going to get a whole lot worse. I’m actually pretty worried about being able to find food in the upcoming months.

Glad we buy bulk though as we already have lots of TP in stock....and Ammo.

 

[mikidymac]

It’s not just the media, you did hear the president recently announced “It’s bad,It’s bad” and this could last for months right?

Sounds like everyone is starting to align this is more serious than originally thought. It’s just a shame it’s taking something like this to get both sides to start agreeing on something.

 

[SteveC]

Consolidated data is a good thing. Here is a source for your consumption.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Mike W]

Anyone else believe we (USA and the rest of the countries that are affected) should be taxing China’s sorry a$$ for letting this virus out? When this is all said and done, I believe we will start moving a lot of manufacturing (especially pharmaceuticals) back to the USA. Unbelievable that we let ourselves get to be so vulnerable and dependent on a communist country.

 

[mikesx]

Anyone else believe we (USA and the rest of the countries that are affected) should be taxing China’s sorry a$$ for letting this virus out? When this is all said and done, I believe we will start moving a lot of manufacturing (especially pharmaceuticals) back to the USA. Unbelievable that we let ourselves get to be so vulnerable and dependent on a communist country.

Greed . Whore values. How do I put the most money in my pocket.

 

[mxmark4]

Came in this morning to my stash of masks being gone, and two of my pts that had been corona virus tested. The one is a fairly high likelihood of being covid positive the other discharged home with pneumonia. The only positive to all this crap is it keeps people out of the ER who dont need to be here. And we just setup a huge tent in front of the entrance to screen anybody with symptoms. What a day.

 

[McDog]

The reason for all the things that have been inplemented so far is to slow the spread so that everyone doesnt get sick at once and overload our hospitals. We are probably all going to get it eventually unless they can fastrack a vaccine but only the old and sick are likely to die. The problem is our population has a lot of old and/or sick people. In Italy right now they are completely overloaded and I think the cutoff age for treatment is 70 because they dont have enough ventilators to go around. That means over 70 means no medical care.

Our goal is to avoid having to ration medical care so we will have fewer deaths overall than if we get overloaded and end up like Italy.

 

[Mike W]

Greed . Whore values. How do I put the most money in my pocket.

Exactly!

 

[yamanube]

So, who, exactly, is better/properly prepared?

That is irrelevant and absolutely the wrong angle to respond from. The question is, how can we be better/properly prepared?

I’m perplexed as to what this could mean. Every great nation and philosophical revolution in history echos that freedom (not from consequences, mind you) is the _only_ thing we are all, in fact, entitled to. Absence of freedom is the abomination. Please explain.

It means that entitled fks will oppose the recommendations of the more informed out of principal. The problem is the, you can't tell me what to do mentality, could potentially endanger other people.

This could definitely be completely blown out of proportion and we could all stand back and think about how we overreacted and do what we can to recover financially. OR it could be a complete disaster hugely propagated by people who refused to take precautions out of inconvenience.

It could be a meme, or a historical event. Either way, we will be more properly prepared if/when it happens again.

 

[Quinc]

Interesting the all mighty had everything planned out before it happened.

 

[SteveC]

That is irrelevant and absolutely the wrong angle to respond from. The question is, how can we be better/properly prepared?

It's not irrelevant if someone is trying to slight the U.S. and/or a given administration as being especially ill prepared. I'm all for excessive preparation and paranoid preemption, so I agree that continuous improvement is the only way to live. BUT, to single out the U.S. as being ill prepared is an attempt to point the finger and play the blame game.

 

[Noah_g]

It means that entitled fks will oppose the recommendations of the more informed out of principal. The problem is the, you can't tell me what to do mentality, could potentially endanger other people.

And most of them are liberal kids on spring break right now haha.

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[mikidymac]

The County just north of me that the Pismo Freeride is in just issued a Shelter-in-Place order. poop's gettin Real!

The fact is sticking your head in the sand and yelling that this is all a hoax to screw Trump has passed and this isn't going to make this go away. It's real, so real that the Republicans and Democrats are actually working together for a change.

The reality is it is better to do what we can at this point than to do nothing and lose loved ones.

 

[mikesx]

https://www.who.int/csr/sars/survival_2003_05_04/en/ Covid19 is worse.

 

[Frosty]

The reason for all the things that have been inplemented so far is to slow the spread so that everyone doesnt get sick at once and overload our hospitals. We are probably all going to get it eventually unless they can fastrack a vaccine but only the old and sick are likely to die. The problem is our population has a lot of old and/or sick people. In Italy right now they are completely overloaded and I think the cutoff age for treatment is 70 because they dont have enough ventilators to go around. That means over 70 means no medical care.

Our goal is to avoid having to ration medical care so we will have fewer deaths overall than if we get overloaded and end up like Italy.

While I get the concept, and completely understand what you are saying, are we all supposed to live in a state of perpetual isolation, many without paychecks., watch countless small business begin to close and see the entire country decend into a massive depression?

Then what? The socialists will just give everyone a monthly paycheck from the bank accounts they seize from the wealthy (until those funds dry up)? Take over businesses that close and make them state owned?

Wouldn't it be better to isolate those most at risk and let the virus cycle through everyone else who would either show no symptoms or only mild symptoms instead of inciting panic, hoarding and what is likely going to turn into looting and violence?

I may sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I'd rather take my chance with the virus rather than live in that kind of nation.

 

[Sanoman]

Little over the top there

 

[mikidymac]

Well I’m going to stay home and work on my superjet. If this all blows over I’ll have a nice RN to ride this summer but if this does get really bad and I die from it my son will have a really nice RN.

We really need to take this more seriously, just look at what is happening in Italy. They are a couple weeks ahead of us and have already been in a full lockdown. In the last 4 days there have been 300+ deaths per day so over 1,000 in just the last 4 days.

In Washington state they are setting up temporary hospitals in soccer fields because they are going to need 3,000 more beds, in Maryland they are working 6,000 more beds and in NYC 100,000 more. Hospitals are already running out of masks and PPE.

I am not saying we should all panic but we do need to take this seriously and stop saying it is a hoax or let everyone die and let God sort them out.

 

[McDog]

While I get the concept, and completely understand what you are saying, are we all supposed to live in a state of perpetual isolation, many without paychecks., watch countless small business begin to close and see the entire country decend into a massive depression?

Then what? The socialists will just give everyone a monthly paycheck from the bank accounts they seize from the wealthy (until those funds dry up)? Take over businesses that close and make them state owned?

Wouldn't it be better to isolate those most at risk and let the virus cycle through everyone else who would either show no symptoms or only mild symptoms instead of inciting panic, hoarding and what is likely going to turn into looting and violence?

I may sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I'd rather take my chance with the virus rather than live in that kind of nation.

I dont disagree. I'm not sure that it's worth destroying the economy and the push of our government towards totalitarianism. Part of me says let it go and let nature handle it, but then I remember my loved ones who probably won't survive and also think of how horrific my life will be at work in the hospital. No good answers here. Both choices suck.

 

[Frosty]

Taking it seriously and inciting fear and panic are two different things.

 

[Freakrider]

Copied from a search about Italy.

"One factor affecting Italy's death rate may be the age of its population — Italy has the oldest population in Europe, with about 23% of residents 65 or older, according to The New York Times. The median age in the country is 47.3, compared with 38.3 in the United States, the Times reported. Many of Italy's deaths have been among people in their 80s, and 90s, a population known to be more susceptible to severe complications from COVID-19."

And then we heard recently young people are at risk more than previously thought and higher blood type A casualties per data from China. I believe it sure wouldn't hurt to take known immune boosting supplements, probiotics and get some vitamin D from sunshine to have a jump start ahead of this pandemic.