I have vision -4 and rickter Evo in my garage. Both with Jetmaniac 781 engines, mag pumps etc. identical powertrain. Rickter is a bit more playful ski, but it slides a lot. With tubbies, EVO becomes much better boat. Rickter is the best quality built hull I have seen on the market. Vision carves and digs hard like 08+ SJ, but of course much more stable and flippable than SJ. I ride surf and personally do not like the ski to slide, therefore I would say I like Vision handling better, but that's my personal taste. As for flipping and rolling, both skis do it easy. You dont have to be a pro to flip a vision or Rickter hull. If you ride mostly salt, ask Steve to build you glass only ski with extra layer of cloth and extra layup on the hood. My Vision is heavily modified and reinforced to sustain the abuse I put it through in the ocean. It is much heavier than the regular Visions, but that's what you want for surf. There are plenty of pics flipping hulls, but below I like to show how good the Vision shreds the wave.