- Location
- Florida
I want to make it where if requested I can make a full length hull good for you guys demanding the all time superjet and short and light for those wanting a freestyle ski. I have some ideas just need to get to work
What do you look for in a hull?
- Thread starter Josh Watson
- Start date
That's not how it works.
- Location
- Florida
Why not? It’s fairly easy to change the mold, lay up before anything. If the molds start full length it’s easy to take inches off the back with the use of clay.
- Location
- Red Bluff CA
Lol. If your old and don't wanna work at it. Just ride a superjet. It can do everything a basic rider could ever want to do.
The aftermarket is for guys pushing it. The guys who out ride a superjet hull. Who the hell is gonna spend 10 or 15k to build a basic ass ski that does the same things as a superjet. A idiot. Granted there are a bunch of those
Short hulls do every single thing better. The guys who say they don't are the same guys that hang off the back of a ski going wide open throttle. They just don't know any better.
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The aftermarket is for guys pushing it. The guys who out ride a superjet hull. Who the hell is gonna spend 10 or 15k to build a basic ass ski that does the same things as a superjet. A idiot. Granted there are a bunch of those
Short hulls do every single thing better. The guys who say they don't are the same guys that hang off the back of a ski going wide open throttle. They just don't know any better.
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You are over simplifying what makes a hull good, rocker, width, pump location, intake design, chines, side angles, etc all make significant differences in how a ski handles. If you think nobody has attempted what you are proposing, you haven't done enough research. The features that make any one hull better suited for a specific application can't be simply reduced down to a couple simple changes to the mold.
- Location
- Florida
I totally understand that, I may just build a few hulls and see what people think first before I change them. I’m keep y’all in the loop, there’s not much money to make in hulls but I really want to get more people involved in the hubby and a cheaper hull may do just that. If it doesn’t work out I’ll build a few for myself and be done with it.
bored&stroked
Urban redneck
- Location
- AZ
Me too. Give me a superjet that weighs 100lbs less. Otherwise I love em as is and see no point in aftermarket hulls since I'm not flipping.
Add a nice wide tray and front foot well!
- Location
- Minnesota
Find the guy that bought the superfreak molds, then you would have the basis for the best all around ski (badass) and a good start and one of the best flat water skis (circus) you could make new molds and improve off two proven platforms
Ive never heard anyone say a particular hull has too much grip or is too slippery in turns. Although I think the SXR based WDK ROC has too much grip and old Rickters are too slippery. Anything in between will probably be great. A wide oversized pump inlet is ALWAYS a good thing, except for racing, then it needs to be longer and narrow. Tubbies dont have to be built in, you can bolt on those if you want. Its the length of the rear that matters the most and ideally it should be easily adjustable along with handlepole length. I like what you're trying to do, but people pay for flips and race victories. Good luck!
We get that you're the best rider ever and the way you like to ride is the only way. You never forget to mention it.. But some of us want to slam boat wakes and waves without wanting to go upside down and have fun and not risk an injury. Superjets do that better than fat short boats designed for freestyle. No superjets aren't perfect. The hoods do suck. But I'd rather keep my money then ride something I feel is less
- Location
- Red Bluff CA
No dude. I'm not. I'm just keeping it real. If your jumping basic boat wakes and doing boner airs, why do you need anything other than a superjet?I rode one for 3 years before I needed to upgrade. I didn't buy a am hull till the superjet hull held me back. That's facts. You can call it bragging or whatever. I can still shred a superjet.
People have this stupid idea that am hulls are hard to ride. Like they forgot the first time they ever rode. Or ever got on a different ski. They are all weird at first. Every. Single. One. Once you get used to a hull, you van develop skills. A superjet is too narrow. And too long. And too heavy to ever do any sort of real tricks. Boner airs and monkey jumps, hell yeah all day.
I ride the sac river. North. Lots of people won't even swim the river up here. I ride a xfr all over it. Up and down it. Race boats. Roll. Flip. Shoot through creeks. Travel as far as my rrp tank will let me wot. Never had a problem ever doing anything. I get on the superjet I sold my buddy. Take one turn, and fall over. 15 min later im back to invert stabbing off throttle preload.
Anyone can shred anything with enough time. A short wide hull will rotate faster. Turn harder, be more buoyant. And more stable. And thats just a fact.
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People have this stupid idea that am hulls are hard to ride. Like they forgot the first time they ever rode. Or ever got on a different ski. They are all weird at first. Every. Single. One. Once you get used to a hull, you van develop skills. A superjet is too narrow. And too long. And too heavy to ever do any sort of real tricks. Boner airs and monkey jumps, hell yeah all day.
I ride the sac river. North. Lots of people won't even swim the river up here. I ride a xfr all over it. Up and down it. Race boats. Roll. Flip. Shoot through creeks. Travel as far as my rrp tank will let me wot. Never had a problem ever doing anything. I get on the superjet I sold my buddy. Take one turn, and fall over. 15 min later im back to invert stabbing off throttle preload.
Anyone can shred anything with enough time. A short wide hull will rotate faster. Turn harder, be more buoyant. And more stable. And thats just a fact.
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I dont jump. I like the water enough that I want to stay on it
Half flip95
Formerly pondracer95
- Location
- Lake Havasu City AZ
just cut a foot off the back of a Gp1 and set it up for a 62t
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Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
Yeah, you cannot do tricks on a SJ................ I agree with alot of what you said. You just have to pick the right hull for what you want...........
I could probably still roll this SJ better than my Edge on flat water!!!!!!!!!!!
Yami-Rider
TigerCraft FV-PRO
- Location
- Texoma
Your need different molds, been down this road. You can't just shorten the hull without adding some width to the hull, short narrow hull rides like garbage.
As for making a cheap quality ski, that's cool and all, but the only place you can cut cost will be your labor rate. So if you dont mind making pennies for all your time invested, your be good to go.
Imo hull needs to be infused, if you dont know how to do that, I'd definitely get the equipment and learn how, well worth it.
As for skis that sale, an all around slightly shorter hull (-6/-10") and flatwater hull (-12+")seem to be the most popular skis right now, since there is no more surf events, surf hulls aren't as popular as they use to be.