Why do aftermarket hoods suck?

[Mark44]

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I will get some pictures tonight but the hood has seadoo air tubes. So they protrude into the hood a bit but not too much and they are close to the outside. The seal is good and it latches plenty tight.

I would like to pull off clean rolls and never fall off of my ski but that isn't going to happen any time soon so it gets water in. Getting the water out isn't a problem I have an xft scupper so it gets rid of it quick I just don't want it in there. Worries me with all that money in that motor. If it was a stock motor I would just let it hydro lock.

Darin has a good idea. Have the tubes turn inside the hood so they almost meet in the middle. I also have a 2" pole breather so that helps with air but do you think covering the air tubes inside the hood with outerwears would work. I don't know how good outerwears work.

Nothing like creating a restriction, you may need to tune if you install these.

 

[SuperJETT]

Here's what I'm thinking.

 

[Mark44]

Here's what I'm thinking.

There you go thats the idea!

Mark44

 

[SXIPro]

Here's what I'm thinking.

You're thinking of a jellyfish or a Space Invader??? That's just plain weird.

 

[Speedfreak]

I think I mentioned this before you had to try and compete with Lou. Lets see who can sink the most money in a jet ski club.Mark44

I only have 2600 invested in this ski with the new motor and all. Not too bad. You have that with your motor and the spare you don't use. okey:

this is how wammer set up my tubes..he zip ties them together and they go pretty deep into the bilge

That is about how far mine are spaced apart and about the length. I will definitely time them together if I can't do as Darin suggested. That is a great idea. Even if I have to use smaller diam. tubes that would work perfect.

 

[djkorn1]

I like Space Invaders.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

it doesnt leak a drop because it doesnt have the balls to get out of its own way.

silly hillbilly.... you got it all wrong.

what is funny is a "freestyle 300sx".

shall we take a vote?:biggthumpup:

Damn sumbeach looks damn near planed out to me.

 

[Speedfreak]

Ok here is my picture. Mine are spaced to the outside further and they are a TON shorter. I am going to replace them if I can find a 3 inch flexible pipe. I got them pulled out and there is enough room in the hood to have them cross on the inside. Just have to find the pipe. I am glad I run a road route. I will be stopping at every place I can think of tomorrow while at work...:fing02:

 

[ChrisGooch]

speed, let me know if/where you find the tubing. I'm having a similar problem

 

[jet pirate]

duct tape !!!

 

[yamaslut]

I had lots of issues w/ my WF hood taking on water. My opinion is the hood doesn't have enough volume in the baffle area. So, when a little water gets in it displaces the area quicker and ends up flooding. My tubes are ridiculously huge too and were cut and and fitted very short, I guess the hood being so short makes it so you can't divert the tubes deeper either... My Wterdawg hood kept out water 100 times better... I do like the look of the WF hood though, just wish it functioned a little better...

 

[yamaslut]

speed, let me know if/where you find the tubing. I'm having a similar problem

spa tubing from Lowes???

 

[Big Kahuna]

the only real way to keep water out when the ski is on it's side is to have them crossed like Jett posted.........

But dont leave your ski on the side, not an issue.

 

[waterfreak]

those vent tubes are OEM sea doo from an xp di. They are not cheap but I though they worked great. Another option is 3 inc shop vac hose. I believe it is what wammer uses in his. These longer tubes should allow for to reach further inside the hood and hopefully prevent water injestion.
I don't think the profile of the hood has anything to do with it!

design change are in now initiated!! shop vac hose from now on!!

 

[ANT]

I have a WCF hood. I love the hood. It is great super strong yet light enough the wind will blow it away like paper. But it lets a TON of water in. It needs some kind of baffle to make an air lock like the stock design. I know that your not suppose to let it sit on it's side in the water but I do spent a bit of my time with my ski laying sideways. And every time it has 4 to 6 inches of water in the bottom. With one tank of fuel my motor has seen more water than my last ski did in 3 years.

Is there a solution? I know that some people say it is because of my scupper letting the air out... But with the scupper plugged with a sewer plug it only takes a few seconds and the hull is full of water. I was playing around with it at the beach and when tilted to the left side the hood flows water in the left side and into the engine compartment and the air flows out the right side.

I was thinking about putting outerwears on the air tubes inside the hood to keep water from getting in. Any other ideas..??? With the WCF you can't seal the air inlets they are too big.

I dont think the whole problem is your hood. It does take it a little bit to fit the WF hood good but once you do it will work fine. It sounds to me like the hood isnt fit tight on the hood seal. Mine let some water in but not that bad, so what I did was got one of the gas caps from my scribner gas cans and it actually screws right onto the hose on the WF hood, so I screwed it onto the hose that sits right over top the battery and my ski has never coughed on water since I did it and its been more than a year. I mean it fits perfectly it screws tight and seals it works awesome lol. It's kinda funny to when I'm around people and pull off the hood and see a gas cap haha. I also run a X-Metal scupper. I'll take a picture when I get home.

http://www.scribnerplastics.com/utiljug.pdf <---just the gas cap

 

[Speedfreak]

I will try the shop vac hose tonight. I checked the hood seal with a dollar bill and all the way around the hood and when it is snapped shut you can not pull the dollar bill out. So that seems like a good seal to me. If I block one of the air tubes off it won't make a difference. I have a 2 inch pole breather.

 

[masterblaster]

speedfreak,its not the hood seal,I have the same seadoo short vents in mine.Even when the ski is upside down and 4 or 5 feet away from you in the surf it floods SUPER quick before you can get it turned back over,riding surf it just happens every now and then,no matter how hard you try to hold on to it.

Wydopen...anyway to know the total length of those tubes including how far they go inside the hood,I think that is 90% of the problem here.

 

[Speedfreak]

I know it isn't the seal I have tested it. I will get you a picture of the tubes tonight. I have had mine out a number of times. I heated them up and zip tied them together in the middle which don't work like I want it to. I think the only solution is what Darin suggested the space invader picture above. I am confident I can get the hose ran inside the hood and crossed if I can get the right tubing. I can't find 3 inch shop vac hose anywhere it is all 2.5 inches. I can get my hand inside the hood to get the hose laid flat I just need the hose... DAMN why don't they make what I want...

I am sure that running freestyle motors you can get by with just a pole breather and small inlets or maybe none. Someone here ran with just a pole breather and no holes in the hood... Heck I might try that. It is just a quick slap of duct tape. Worst case scenario it runs so rich that the motor doesn't rev up. And if it works then I have it solved.... If not then pull the duct tape.

And then my 2nd idea is to try to seal one side of the inlet with foam and then the other side with duct tape. (hard to describe). If you look at my hood picture seal the the right intake with foam and then the left air tube hole with duct tape. So that the air has to travel diagonal across the hood. Inlet on one side exit on the other. I have to get this thing sealed. If not then it is going to be hell to get the paint to match with a stock hood.

Look at this video at the 3:15 point. It was a tierd attempt at a nose stab but I wasn't under water very long and you can hear the motor choking on the water as I come up. I also run an xft scupper so it should have been dry when I went under. almost raw footage of Ozarks Invasion 2008

 

[masterblaster]

sometimes that can be very minimal water getting on your plug wires and causing the wires to ground out,usually when it clears up that quick its water down the carb. Id just run the 2.5 inch house long and at a curve and see what happens.think thats what im gonna try

 

[Speedfreak]

It didn't clear up that quick it was about 50 yards or so of me nursing it to get it running. The camera stopped. I will get you a picture of the hoses in a few minutes.